WW Hulk vs Martian Manhunter

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I never saw anyone attack the Hulk telepathically. I saw Xavier read his mind, and then get shut out.

You don't need to enter someone's mind to attack them telepathically. There are only a handful of telepaths who can get into Wolverine's mind, but this doesn't mean he'd be completely immune to telepathic attacks from them.

Well they said they attacked him.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0006.jpg

I think its also stated in black and white somewhere that Prof X attacked Hulk, seeing Hulks thoughts was just feedback from the attack.

There you go.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Hulk/hulkmentalresistanceproof.jpg

Prof X attacked him the thoughts were just feedback from the attack.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well they said they attacked him.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/WWH_Xmen_3_DCP_0006.jpg

I think its also stated in black and white somewhere that Prof X attacked Hulk, seeing Hulks thoughts was just feedback from the attack.

They attempted to control him, they did not attack him.

If Professor X had fired a telepathic bolt at the Hulk, the outcome would've been different.

You somehow managed to miss the point of my post. Trying to read someone's mind or control them is different from attacking them.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
They attempted to control him, they did not attack him.

Yeah your right mind control isnt a type of mental attack 👆

Originally posted by Kris Blaze

If Professor X had fired a telepathic bolt at the Hulk, the outcome would've been different.

Got any proof?

TP bolt from Cable didn't stop a weaker Hulk.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah your right mind control isnt a type of mental attack 👆

Got any proof?

Once again the obvious went right past you.

Mind control =/= Mind blasts/psychic bolts etc

Originally posted by Mindset
TP bolt from Cable didn't stop a weaker Hulk.

That cable =/= Professor X

That Cable was matching up pretty well against X-man.

The gap between power is not that great, imo.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Once again the obvious went right past you.

Mind control =/= Mind blasts/psychic bolts etc

No really it didnt. A mental bolt is different from mind control but being able to resist mind control may help you resist a mental bolt because both attacks are related eventhough they are different. If you are resistant to fire it can help you resist other heat absed attacks.

At any rate its better proof than just stating that Prof Xs bolt would have worked.

Got any proof it would have worked?

Originally posted by Mindset
That Cable was matching up pretty well against X-man.

The gap between power is not that great, imo.

It is.

Professor X recently received a boost to his telepathy as well.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No really it didnt. A mental bolt is different from mind control but being able to resist mind control [b]may help you resist a mental bolt because both attacks are related eventhough they are different. If you are resistant to fire it can help you resist other heat absed attacks.

At any rate its better proof than just stating that Prof Xs bolt would have worked.

Got any proof it would have worked? [/B]

- It should generally help, but even Professor X can be mentally attacked by telepaths who are far weaker than him.

- Selene and the leader have both affected the Hulk with telepathic attacks, none of them are capable of controlling him and I'm pretty sure Selene failed at reading his mind.

Trying to use a fire analogy with telepathic attacks generally fails. Hulk isn't any more durable when it comes to psychic energy.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It is.

Professor X recently received a boost to his telepathy as well.

Also, I disagree with everything you have ever said.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze

It should generally help, but even Professor X can be mentally attacked by telepaths who are far weaker than him.

Wrecker can get hurt by bullets doesnt mean that he cant withstand much greater damage. Characters can generally get hurt by weaker characters you need to specify how weaker they are and what happened. If a much weaker telepath beat Prof you might have a point.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze

- Selene and the leader have both affected the Hulk with telepathic attacks, none of them are capable of controlling him and I'm pretty sure Selene failed at reading his mind.

Grey Hulk right? Which is a much weaker version to WWH.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze

Trying to use a fire analogy with telepathic attacks generally fails. Hulk isn't any more durable when it comes to psychic energy.

Well obvoulsy if you can resist mind control then you are. You just have proven that mind control doesnt give resistance to mental bolts.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Wrecker can get hurt by bullets doesnt mean that he cant withstand much greater damage. Characters can generally get hurt by weaker characters you need to specify how weaker they are and what happened. If a much weaker telepath beat Prof you might have a point.

Grey Hulk right? Which is a much weaker version to WWH.

Well obvoulsy if you can resist mind control then you are. You just have proven that mind control doesnt give resistance to mental bolts.

No, then I wouldn't have a point at all. My point is that they cannot read his mind or control his body because of the incredible resistance he has, but they can still harm him by using psychic bolts and such.

Not Grey Hulk.

I proved that resistance to mind control doesn't provide resistance to mental bolts, which was my point. Hulk can resist being controlled, but he cannot resist a psychic bolt.

irrc didnt doc strange try to mind screw ww hulk

Dr. Strange was jobbed out of his mind during that arc. 👇

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Dr. Strange was jobbed out of his mind during that arc. 👇

WWH, like 8-9/10.

Originally posted by Nihilist
and?....i was asking a question.

No he didn't.

Originally posted by Nihilist
irrc didnt doc strange try to mind screw ww hulk

But regarding that side of things, I loved this line:

Originally posted by spetznaz
Yes he was. Also, the Hulk has been quite resistant to telepathic attacks (at least as written by a number of writers) several times.

It's just that MM wouldn't need to use that on him.

Also that Hulk would have no way of putting MM down.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Dr. Strange was jobbed out of his mind during that arc. 👇

Originally posted by Galan007
Strange entered Hulk's mind so that he could speak solely to the 'Banner-half' in an attempt to calm him down. Other than that, he didn't try to muck with Hulk's mind at all. However, Strange did say that if he exerted too much effort in getting inside Hulk's mind, it would kill him (the Hulk, that is.)

But regarding that side of things, I loved this line: