leonheartmm
Senior Member
Sorry if you believe the whole "Blood for oil!" "Omg Bush went to Iraq for oil!" garbage..that's too bad. Economic benefits? Again, is that why oil hit its record high during this great surge of oil supply? Do you know what supply-demand means?Yeah, we went to Iraq for their oil fields, oil fields being bought and used by the Chinese.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/29/world/middleeast/29iraq.html?ref=world
Your logic fails.
blissful ignorance my friend. educate yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Iraq
http://www.oilempire.us/iraqoil.html
What? The rest of the world is seeing high oil and energy prices just like the US is. Again, oil prices have fallen due to lack of demand for it now. And the mortgage and housing crisis is not just a domestic issue. There is so much money and securities that are supported by mortgages and the loans banks lend out. Once the mortgages crash everything on top comes down with it.Take a basic economics class, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortgage-backed_security
but in the wrest of the world, the prices arent proportional domestically to the united states, surely you know this. tell me this, why did the oil prices RISE to begin with, saying it is due to the credit cruch in the US alone will have economists all over beating you on the head with their shoes. and the gross us mortgage was just over a trillion dollars, kinda LESS dontcha think, for causing a global economic depression. and it seems you have not even read the link you posted. it would clearly prove to you that domestic mortgage and housing wasnt the cause for the global depression we are in. nice try trying to make ME out to be the uneducated party.
So again by your logic..we should be out of this recession by summer, correct? The world and the United States will be great, back in a nice boom! The price of crude is down, economies will stabalize! It's ridiculous, whoever taught you this needs to be shot.And no 1 person can be blamed for the crisis, only an ignorant person would put the entire blame on a single individual (like you blaming Bush). In our system of government it's impossible for one person to bear the blame of something. Clinton did play a big part in it, whether you choose to believe it or not.
WHERE exactly in the things that i have posted did i even give the faintest impression that we should be out of recession by summer. i have been giving evidence AGAINST that idiotic presumption all this time i beleive. nice strawman. and please do not try to attack people who have taught me, since you are largely uneducated on the issues and blissfully ignorant in your own tiny propaganda driven world.
just like no one person can be blamed for the mess in iraq and afghanistan. again, stop putting the blame on other, that has been my point from the start, i dont love clinton, i DO NOT love obama, i hate them, but this is about responsibility. it just so happens that bush started the whole mess and let it continue, his entire team is to blame ofcourse, as are the democrats who stood idly by.
Budget deficit and debt are 2 different things buddy 🤪 my god."or r u talking about annual project budget deficit"
Read what I posted and it should be cleaaaar as day.
sigh. and your calling ME uneducated. debt is a type of deficit that accumulates. what you are referring to{as i asked you to clarify i beleive} is ANNUAL budget deficit. in which case you have no argument to counteract mine which depends on the total debt of america, ill give you this, it is a nice play on words to deceive though. now educate yourself
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deficit
Obama has already bombed Pakistani land, for your information. He also said military action against Iran is an option.
you IDIOT, i am PAKISTANI!!!! so i think i can do without your INFORMATION. hes bombed frontier/balochistan province land which is tribally owned not under the gorvernment control. as has the previous and current pakistani government, taking orders from america and under HUGE and majority dissent from the public. the ONLY reason he has been able to do so is because the pakistani governements of the time were partial puppet governments taking huge bribes and other illegal economic and political benefits from america. however, all out WAR and invasion isnt sumthing any government in pakistan would stand for, nor would the armed forces who would put martial law in place if the leaders didnt comply. and ofcours,e iran isnt bought out by the americans, if the american armed forces so much as put a step out of line in their territory, there would be hell to pay for. and obama knows this, heck, bush knew this and kept his distance. so unless obama is more idiotic than red neck shit for brains, it just an empty threat to rally political support.
How is it not decreasing? If you make 100 dollars a day, and I take 30 of it, then decide to take 30 more of it, you're losing money. And it's about the hypocrisy of Obama's "fair" bullshit. Claiming how the rich take advantage of the poor, that the rich don't pay as much in taxes. It's all bullshit. The middle class are given jobs by the rich, their benefits and social programs are paid for by the rich and the rich pay the most taxes in this country..yet it isnt fair to the working class?
but you proposed what is your BELEIVED reality of the world. the fact is, the top 5% are GAINING money, and the difference between rich and poor is INCREASING not decreasing. how do you explain that if what your saying is truly happening at face value? i guess what im saying is that the way ur desribing isnt the way its happening and you need to look at reality again. tax evasion/legal loopholes/stealing wealth from abroad/tax exemption/technicalities etc all play their respective parts in making the rich RICHER, whereas it would be impossible without these wrongdoings to make the rich richer in america if they really were adhering to your perceived tax policies in america. so yes, the tax increases are fair. and you really need to read some non propagandist text on communism and socialism and liberal versions of the two. you are again, blissfully ignorant.
It's pointless to argue, it's anybody opinion. But many people do agree MSNBC is just as slanted as Fox is, or more. Cant deny it.I'm pretty sure fox is the most watched news channel as well for the record. They must be doing something right. And you seem to know so much about them, so you must watch as well.
Yeah, they are the same. Olbermann's show is an hour of bashing Republicans and blaming Bush for everything. Just like Hannitys is an hour of criticizing Obama. They arent any different. The difference between you and me is I can tell both Hannity and Olbermann are bias and completely skewed to their parties, while you just see Hannity, thus showing your ignorance and own slanted views.
All the links I post that actually back up and support my statements.
but oppinions mean nothing if they arent backed by facts. and yes i can very easily deny it.
fox is porno for conservatives, christians, rednecks and idiots. thta makes the majority of america, so why wudnt it be popular? your mistaking popular oppinion with right oppinion.
no, the difference between the two is that bush and the republican party actually are responsible for the things that they are blamed for and do actually posess ideologies and oppinions based in complete ignorance and bigotry, while the democratic party doesnt{on accoun of not being in power for so long as to not have a significant affect on the affairs of the world and definately on ideology}. as i said, both sides of a debate are not equally valid if one side is complete bullshit. the difference between you and me is that you can not seem to acknowledge this.
and none of the links you posted even give positive EVIDENCE for your assumptions, much less PROVE them. open your eyes, being a republican was never very smart, now though, its downright idiotic and loathsome. be an independant instead with true free market views, atleast that wa i cud actually respect you even if i dont agree with you.