Odin vs ???

Originally posted by King Kandy
He'll get out.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. He would be destroyed instantly.
Remember his durability is far less than Thor's since Odin is a pure Asgardian (90tons max) while Thor is a hybrid.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. He would be destroyed instantly.
Remember his durability is far less than Thor's since Odin is a pure Asgardian (90tons max) while Thor is a hybrid.

This time h1 has a point. A black hole was enough to flat out utterly destroy two universal-level threats in Maelstrom and Asteroth. Yet someone like Surfer and Thanos can survive them. Pretty strange.

the black hole that "killed" maelstrom was gigantic, it was as you said universe threatening. even the combined group of watchers couldn't do a damn thing to stop it.

The most powerful host of Celestials couldn't stop it.

Odin wins. He fights tougher opponents all the time. Odin is seriously being slighted in this thread.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
odinforce amps durability and strength.

Prove it. Because from what I've read Odin is class 90 at best.

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. Because from what I've read Odin is class 90 at best.

And what've you read besides the Marvel.com bios?

Originally posted by King Kandy
He has the durability to withstand Thanos blasts whereas Thor does not. His durability is mystically enhanced.

Energy projection durability isn't the same as physical durability (a black hole). Thanos' blasts aren't anywhere near black hole level. Thor has taken blasts far greater than Thanos can project.

Originally posted by Enyalus
And what've you read besides the Marvel.com bios?

I don't read Marvel.com bios. They are completely wrong. I read OHOTMU. I also have several Thor comics. Odin has no strength feats. He is a pure asgardian (50tons average male) where Thor is a hybrid.
Thor is the strongest and most durable asgardian.

Odin wins

Afully powered awakened from the odinsleep odin takes this powerful team out!

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't read Marvel.com bios. They are completely wrong. I read OHOTMU. I also have several Thor comics. Odin has no strength feats. He is a pure asgardian (50tons average male) where Thor is a hybrid.
Thor is the strongest and most durable asgardian.

8th Day Juggernaut - Teleported into a black hole
Runner/w Space Gem - hard fought battle with Odin. Still loses
Harald Jaekelsson - black hole
War Hulk - Into a sun 🙂
Silver Surfer - one shotted
Lockjaw(For help with bfrs) - one shotted
Gladiator/w Captain Universe power upgrade - Sent to another timeline
Sentry - one shotted
Firelord - one shotted
Apocalypse - one shotted
Dr Doom - one shotted
Mister Fantastic - one shotted

Odin wins 9/10.

Why is reed richards and dr. doom even in here if there isn't any prep involved?

Originally posted by Enyalus
And what've you read besides the Marvel.com bios?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
8th Day Juggernaut - Teleported into a black hole
Runner/w Space Gem - hard fought battle with Odin. Still loses
Harald Jaekelsson - black hole
War Hulk - Into a sun 🙂
Silver Surfer - one shotted
Lockjaw(For help with bfrs) - one shotted
Gladiator/w Captain Universe power upgrade - Sent to another timeline
Sentry - one shotted
Firelord - one shotted
Apocalypse - one shotted
Dr Doom - one shotted
Mister Fantastic - one shotted

Odin wins 9/10.

Interesting. Odin has demonstrated time and dimension spanning powers well beyond classic Thor's. He probably could just BFR 8th Day Juggernaut rather than try to fight head on. And with Jaekelsson it brings up a good point - did Strange (or anyone) just try to BFR him instead of more direct attacks?

Lockjaw would probably BFR himself when the fireworks started. Dogs don't like fireworks.

Most of the rest go down as stated. If Odin can stand up to what Thanos dished out without much trouble he probably has the durability to last the fight.

Odin also could probably return to Asgard if they tried to BFR him.

Not sure about what the Runner could do though.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That was when his invulnerability was tied into his forcefield. If he truly separated him from Cyttorak then cain wouldn't have hurt him with a punch nor would a regular human be able to take punches from Thor for a minute without dying or getting KO'd.

Juggernauts total indestructibility is as a result of his forcefield. He is highly durable without it however its the combination of both which makes him truly unstoppable.

Thor temporarily disrupted the force field making him more of a match for Juggernaut. I never said he completely negated the Cytorrak connection or obviously he would've lost the majority of his power. Not necessarily all as you suggest because before the World War Hulk event Jugg had no connection with Cytorrak, he had just absorbed enough of the power over such a length of time that he was able to retain a measure of his former abilities. No connection with Cytorrak does not mean a complete reversion to Cain Marko.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Give me some examples please?

Classic Strange said he couldn't do it and he's one of the most powerful mystics we've seen on panel. D'Spayre couldn't even fully do it.

Odin isn’t Strange or D’spayre he’s more powerful than either.

Thor hits Jugg with all his power and Jugg makes a point of saying it just tickled because of his force field

Thor negates Juggs force field with Mjolnir, with Juggernaut talking of how he has lost his invulnerability

With the force field gone Thor gains the upper hand, however Juggernaut is saved when Thors hammer returns to him ending the negation spell:

Juggernauts invulnerability is tied to his force field. Without it, he is highly durable but not unstoppable.