Ryu Hayabusa vs Link

No, champ. The normal enemies can out step arrows too in LttP. This is just poor graphics.

There are a few Zelda games with better graphics and even cutscenes, and in none of these cutscenes does Link begin to suggest he has superspeed. Until you can prove otherwise, he is no faster than an ordinary human.

Except the ordinary enemies cannot out run an arrow, only side step out of the way. so you're wrong.

The pegasus boots are specificly an item to boost speed and the graphics are good enogh to show this.

Zelda games never have Link fight in cut scenes. You, the player, do the combat.

Edit: further more, in the 16 bit era aLttP's graphics were amazing.

More edit: You still owe me and the others an apology. D:<

The pegasus boots grant "incredible speed". If the graphics and gameplay were improved to todays standards, and the pegasus boots existed while maintaining their properties, Link would out run arrows. In order to use this speed like he does, it would also require him to have super reflexes.

The cutscenes in LoZ only ever show story elements and never involve combat.

EDIT: Screampaste stop being faster than me

Link can't even change directions using the pegasus boots, they're pretty much useless in combat. Even if they did let him outrun arrows canonically, barely moves faster than them, and certainly isn't moving bullet fast. They don't even allow him any speed other than running speed, so they don't help him defend against Ryu's onslaught one bit.

Once again, no scenes in Zelda involve Link using superspeed, ergo he doesn't have it. Link was never intended to be anything more than a mortal with some nat weapons.

And I'm not apologizing to a silly sock puppeteer. Sorry. 🙁

I have proof he has it, you have none he doesn't, ergo, he does. Given the thigns Link achieves it's a bit absurd to say he was only ever intended to be a human with neat weapons?

And I'm no sock puppeteer. Apologise plx. Or I'm telling D:<!

the charging in one direction is merely a gameplay mechanic, the boots automatically grant the speed. If you want to see what the manual says about the boots.

http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/link-to-the-past/inst-us/z3manual-23-24.jpg

Also he wouldn't need to move faster than bullets to fight Ryu, because Ryu himself is not that uber fast.

No cut scenes involve Ryu teleporting or blocking bullets, ergo he can't do it!

see that? it doesn't make a lot of sense.

lets also point out that Link is Hylian. Not human by our standards, who's to say what they aren't capable of beyond status, in otherwise terms of racial attributes they posess.

tl;dr: Link isn't Human, like we or Ryu is human.

Ryu is that uberfast, we see him blocking bullets throughout the game, sorry sport. 🙁

And if you'd read it you'd see that the manual agrees with me. They let him run fast, that's it. He can't swing a sword or shield any faster with them.

Link has no superspeed, this is a canon fact. Watch link in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pGDBVYHEF8

That's pretty slow.

Now Ryu.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0JeWFUFsEU

Notice how he's pulling off 5+ hits in the time it takes Link to swing a sword?

Link is horribly outmatched in speed. If you can't even see the truth in that you're beyond hope, and there's no point in continuing here. 🙁

firstly, that's the wrong Link, that's TP Link without pegasus boots. Secondly, that fight is against an enemy that requires specificly timed hits, and yeah, he's not attackins as often as he can. Thirdly, Ryu really isn't that much faster in your vid and whiel more acrobatic is not beyond what Link can handle. furthermore, Link easily dodged that thrown sword which was as fast as most of the attacks agaisnt Ryu in that video with a casual side step, and that's one of the slowest Links, who is also already proven to have super human reaction time.

You just helped me.

once AGAIN you're mixing the words speed and agility.

Speed
–noun
1. rapidity in moving, going, traveling, proceeding, or performing;

Agility
–noun
1. the power of moving quickly and easily; nimbleness

one has to deal with the movement while on a surface in which you are in motion, the other is the reaction against any sort of counter action on command. A move is a move. An attack is an attack. Regardless of what velocity it is coming at, Link's reaction of reflex and agility can be just as quick as Ryu.

i.e. the attacks coming Link's way are slow, ergo, he only needs to react accordingly. If they were fast, he'd react other wise.

but you posted a TP Link. When this conversation is strictly about a Link to the Past Link. I'm sure though everyone would be more then happy and fine if you want to count "Link" as one soul entity of his game titles, thus having yourself go up against a very over powered game character.

you yourself should be restricting Ryu to a specific game.

No, that's about the same speed as Ryu swings his sword. The only thing that was faster was his swing speed in the air, which was also guided by the fact that he was doing a somersault while holding out the weapon. Also like i mentioned before, Ryu can only be faster when he does the charge, otherwise it'd be an even speed contest. Anyway we were discussing LttP Link not TP.

Edit: Ok you guys discuss, cause i gtg
Edit2: but fascist... I just saw a vid of Link doing a dodge just as fast as Ryu's dodge... that makes it true right?

Once again, you can't say Link is as fast as Ryu when all the evidence points to the contrary. The sword that guy throw took miore time to reach Link than Doku's takes to get to Ryu and back. Link has never, ever shown agility or speed like Ryu has. End of story.

Acknowledge this or you and your puppets can join my ignore list. 🙁

Sigh, I have no puppets. Peach proved it in the Link vs Dante thread. I'm reporting you unless I get an apology.

acknowledge simple physics first and relativity.

Idk about puppetry and I actually argue with Link fans a lot, kek.

You need to study definition of words before you start sticking them in (X) and (Y) situations.

Simple physics says that something that attacks five times in the amount of time it takes another to attack once is 5 times faster.

And since you've done nothing but ignore the facts, scream, you and your alter egos have to go on ignore now. Maybe someday you'll learn to properly debate. 🙁

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Maybe someday you'll learn to properly debate. 🙁 [/B]

Ohhh the irony.

Lol, my alter egos. If I had that many people in my head I'd be typing from a padded cell.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It really is. Link's durability is such that he can survive that. That is the point.

Why do you keep talking as if these are NORMAL BULLETS?

Link has been struck with things MUCH stronger than that and barely taken damage Gumachi, move on, please.. Or atleast post in the right thread?

So?