Originally posted by Mindset
Kyle is the strongest person in DC, Batman is numero dos.
Your list is outdated. Dr. Doom actually used the sales profits from the Fantastic Four Mattel action figures to buy DC from Warner Brothers. Happens in Masters of Evil #3, Limited Edition.
That'd put him on top, strength-wise.
Originally posted by EnyalusI don't even include Doom in these lists, he is beyond tiers.
Your list is outdated. Dr. Doom actually used the sales profits from the Fantastic Four Mattel action figures to buy DC from Warner Brothers. Happens in Masters of Evil #3, Limited Edition.That'd put him on top, strength-wise.
This is assuming that all characters are at their best, without any current limitations (I think Wally is currently capped at a certain speed? meh)
Batman vs Nightwing = Batman wins
Straight up fight, Batman wins. Why? Because he is the damn Batman.
Hal Jordan vs Kyle Rayner = Tie *Yes, I said tie dammit*
Most people would disagree, saying that Hal Jordan would beat Kyle, but at their best Kyle is quite underestimated. He has accomplished things that Hal could never do (and to be honest, vice versa). Hal is seen as the ultimate lantern simply because of hype, in my personal opinion, and not out of actual ability.
Barry Allen vs Wally West = Wally West wins
Just personal opinion on who wins in a fight.
This is just personal opinion of what would take place in an actual fight, however, what people need to notice at is that none of those match ups would actually happen if they are fighting as a team.
Why? Because you have Batman and Nightwing in the teams.
Both of these individuals would have the group fighting as a unit, Batman using the other two as resources, Nightwing organizing a team front. In these terms we can agree that Batman is one of the best strategists in the DC universe (over Nightwing even). On the other hand Nightwing is DC's best leader, no questions asked.
Both of those statements give leverage to the fact that either side can win (Batman outthinking his opponents using his team as weapons in his arsenal, Nightwing bringing out the best in his team and organizing them in such a way to work together more efficiently for the best results).
In all honesty, I can see a case being made for either side to win, though I personally would be cheering for the old sidekicks.
(Though because the general conversation in this thread has nothing to do with the topic, and more about randomness, all I have to say is: Poop.)