Originally posted by Superherovandalhe beat teams orgainzed to bring him down. ww isnt as powerful as they teams. he would crush her.
however the thing about Reed's plan is that it isn't magic that is on an unbreakable object operated by a girl thats stronger than anyone he's faced so far in WWH. can someone name one individual that was as strong and fast and skilled as WW is that Hulk actually defeated. the strongest person i saw him defeat is Colossus and he's nowhere near her strength.
Originally posted by llagrok
Other than Wonder Woman, what characters/items has the calming ability of her lasso?
I assume Dr Strange's magic is of the same nature as WW's lasso.
Dr. Strange can't turn Hulk back into Banner or else WWH wouldn't have happened... in fact Hulk wouldn't need to be ejected into space in the first place if Strange could have done that to Hulk.
therefore, it's safe to say that magic ain't going to cut it, only a high-end energy siphoning capability is.
WW's first contact with WWH will be the deciding moment of the 'match', Hulk crushing her bones and ending it, there and then.
if she's flying around trying to take pot-shots, he's not going to be phased by any of it. instead, he'll just smack her out the air with a thunderclap, burst her eardrums and disorientate her.
WW's just not a problem for an enraged/amped up Hulk. and WWH is possibly the strongest Hulk, in terms of consistency over an arc, yet (though Hulk's done far more impressive things in his past).
Originally posted by janus77
I assume Dr Strange's magic is of the same nature as WW's lasso.Dr. Strange can't turn Hulk back into Banner or else WWH wouldn't have happened... in fact Hulk wouldn't need to be ejected into space in the first place if Strange could have done that to Hulk.
therefore, it's safe to say that magic ain't going to cut it, only a high-end energy siphoning capability is.WW's first contact with WWH will be the deciding moment of the 'match', Hulk crushing her bones and ending it, there and then.
if she's flying around trying to take pot-shots, he's not going to be phased by any of it. instead, he'll just smack her out the air with a thunderclap, burst her eardrums and disorientate her.
WW's just not a problem for an enraged/amped up Hulk. and WWH is possibly the strongest Hulk, in terms of consistency over an arc, yet (though Hulk's done far more impressive things in his past).
So by your logic, WW is no more durable than Rockslide?
Originally posted by janus77
she can be as strong as Superman (she is not), but WWH is stronger and can instantaneously be exponentially stronger still. now that's a major problem to address.
I highly doubt one thunderclap would be enough to take down WW, nor do I think that he would be capable of crushing her instantly. So far he has only taken out people like Grimm and Rasputin.
he can put out sufficient force, it all depends upon how the battle's going.
if she takes a few potshots, whizzes buy a few times, he'll get sufficiently pissed off to thunderclap her out of the air.
he's got the strength, never lacked for that. just a case of how durable WW is, and imo she's not gonna be able to stand up to his attacks.
Yeah, it's kinda sad to see the disrespect Diana get here. And don't get me wrong I love the Jolly Green Giant as much as anyone, but people are just too infatuated here with Hulk, that it's disappointing sometimes....as if they're so jaded by their fan worship they can't use logic to see how his deficiences CAN cost him fights. ...as if his opponents are just going to stand there and say "punch me with all you've got".
Only Rocky Balboa pulled that off.
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Originally posted by janus77
I assume Dr Strange's magic is of the same nature as WW's lasso.Dr. Strange can't turn Hulk back into Banner or else WWH wouldn't have happened... in fact Hulk wouldn't need to be ejected into space in the first place if Strange could have done that to Hulk.
therefore, it's safe to say that magic ain't going to cut it, only a high-end energy siphoning capability is.WW's first contact with WWH will be the deciding moment of the 'match', Hulk crushing her bones and ending it, there and then.
if she's flying around trying to take pot-shots, he's not going to be phased by any of it. instead, he'll just smack her out the air with a thunderclap, burst her eardrums and disorientate her.
WW's just not a problem for an enraged/amped up Hulk. and WWH is possibly the strongest Hulk, in terms of consistency over an arc, yet (though Hulk's done far more impressive things in his past).
I read the first sentence of your post, and didn't bother waisting my time with the rest.
Dr. Strange's (who isn't at past power levels BTW) use of magic is mystic sorcerery.
Diana's lasso is a 'gift from the Gods'.
GTFO
Well for one he has stomped out most of the major superhero teams singlehandedly, and they all had prep.
He defeated the x-men all at the same time (showing resilience to telepathy, TK, and matter manipulation in the process far above what he's normally capable of), he defeated an upgraded Iron Man, he withstood BlackBolt's scream at point blank range, he withstood a mind barrage from Dr. Strange who developed the spell with 24 hrs prep time, he defeated the fantastic four combined (withstood Johnny's nova flame, destroyed Sue's forcefield in two hits, and blasted Reed Richard's prep), he smashed the Juggernaut into submission, he knocked out She-Hulk, smacked around Hercules, and we see an image of Sentry looking battered in a future release of WWH.
Wonderwoman could have taken them all at once 😉
...and did you really try to bring in a cover?
As stated before, this is the strongest Hulk has ever been.
His healing factor, speed, intelligence, cunning, strength, durability, telekinetic resistance, telepathic resistance, and mystical resistance, are all amplified exponentially above their normal levels.
How often do you see people straight up resist Dr. Strange with prep?
Resist dr.strange with prep? What the hell are you talking about Janus? Dr.Strange didn't prep himself at all, he only tried to access the Hulk's mind once. That's all we've seen so far. If either dr.strange or reed actually tried to use the prep time to create something OFFENSIVE, things would've been different.
Originally posted by What If...Hulks not strong enough GTFO,you ruined your whole argument with that.Dr.Strange isnt depowerd...who told you that.
I read the first sentence of your post, and didn't bother waisting my time with the rest.Dr. Strange's (who isn't at past power levels BTW) use of magic is mystic sorcerery.
GTFO
Not strong enough.
Diana's speed, intelligence, cunning, strength, durability, telepathic resistance is higher. And one cannot have TK resistence.
A group of ninjas took Dr. Strange down like nothing. Either your ignorant or ignoring the fact that his power levels aren't the same as they used to be.
Originally posted by llagrok
Resist dr.strange with prep? What the hell are you talking about Janus? Dr.Strange didn't prep himself at all, he only tried to access the Hulk's mind once. That's all we've seen so far. If either dr.strange or reed actually tried to use the prep time to create something OFFENSIVE, things would've been different.
Dr. Strange had 24 hrs prep. He used that prep to create a custom spell to try and get into Hulk's mind - which failed. Thus, Hulk > Dr. Strange's mind spell with 24 hrs prep.
Originally posted by What If...
Diana's speed, intelligence, cunning, strength, durability, telepathic resistance is higher. And one cannot have TK resistence.
LOL Diana's durability and strength are higher? You really are a looney, either that or you didn't read Planet Hulk and WWH at all. Which it seems most likely is the case, as currently you have only gone with pre-WWH Hulk feats.
Originally posted by Kutulu
LOL Diana's durability and strength are higher? You really are a looney, either that or you didn't read Planet Hulk and WWH at all. Which it seems most likely is the case, as currently you have only gone with pre-WWH Hulk feats.
What great strength feats does WWH have actually? he has beaten NO characters with durability/strength comparable to Wonder Woman.
Originally posted by Kutulu
LOL Diana's durability and strength are higher? You really are a looney, either that or you didn't read Planet Hulk and WWH at all. Which it seems most likely is the case, as currently you have only gone with pre-WWH Hulk feats.
Diana wins hands down. no contest. Faster, Stronger, Superior Reflexes, Superior Weapons, and Defense the Hulk can't get around.
Originally posted by llagrok
What great strength feats does WWH have actually? he has beaten NO characters with durability/strength comparable to Wonder Woman.
So you are telling me that WW could resist a full scale BlackBolt scream to the face like WWH could? A whisper which levelled mountains and a scream which literally rips electrons off of their atoms? What about beating up Hercules, you're telling me Wonder Woman is stronger than Hercules now too?
You have already shown me that you didn't read the series, so please just stop while you are ahead, go to your comic book store, pick it up, then get back to the thread when you are done.
bangin
Originally posted by Kutulu
So you are telling me that WW could resist a full scale BlackBolt scream to the face like WWH could? A whisper which levelled mountains and a scream which literally rips electrons off of their atoms? What about beating up Hercules, you're telling me Wonder Woman is stronger than Hercules now too?You have already shown me that you didn't read the series, so please just stop while you are ahead, go to your comic book store, pick it up, then get back to the thread when you are done.
bangin
WW man handled Herc with ease in the CANNON JLa avengers. of course if she can take an enraged punch from a sun amped Superman, BB shouldn't do much worse. Especially since Superman's Punch Feats>>BB's scream feats.
Originally posted by Kutulu
So you are telling me that WW could resist a full scale BlackBolt scream to the face like WWH could? A whisper which levelled mountains and a scream which literally rips electrons off of their atoms? What about beating up Hercules, you're telling me Wonder Woman is stronger than Hercules now too?You have already shown me that you didn't read the series, so please just stop while you are ahead, go to your comic book store, pick it up, then get back to the thread when you are done.
bangin
1. Go read up on the rules, then check out something called PIS.
2. Wonderwoman is in fact, stronger than Hercules.
3. Hulk didn't beat Hercules in a straight fight, Hulk hit Herc, Herc dropped Hulk and Hulk hit Herc.
4. I have to drive 3 hours to the nearest comic book shop, so I'll stick with demonoid.
5. I have in fact read them, that's why I post scans from the comics. Something I've yet to see you do 🙄
6. Go check out some more stuff written by Pak, tell me he gives a flying **** about continuity.
7. Explain why Warpath was in space, Cyclops had his powers back, Emma received psychic backlash in diamond form, Kitty held back despite ninja training, Colossus used no skill, Hellion tried to restrict the Hulk and why Storm isn't around.
8. Show me a scan of Hulk pulling something that weights around a third of planet earth.
9. Show me him resisting a calming effect comparable to Wonder Woman's lasso. You know, the god gift that's a lot harder to resist than the Sentry's "calming aura"
10. Go kill yourself.