Originally posted by StiltmanFTWhell yeah
Was MM ever retconned? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought there was just that mental block thing.
but then MM said he wuz < Infinity (or is it Eternity) whos <<< classic beyonder
so now hes a lot weaker
I think that the thing he found "weird" about them was that they were both nigh-indestructable.ok but this goes for mjolnir too 😄
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
(wasnt that pre-retcon molecule man?)
just saying cuz iirc galactus once said he didnt like magic (or he was weak against magic or somethin like that) yet galactus is hi-level tooanyways surfers board and caps shield aint got magic mojo on top o them
so what is it that MMM said wuz "weird" about them? 🤨
its the properties of each atoms/molecule/bonds of silver surfers board and caps shield,not only are they near-indestructable but the way the molecules Aline themselves was unlike anything he had seen from most previous materials, especially caps shield, i think it is the unknown catalyst that is bonding the iron and vibranium that MM says its weird, hence, the bond angle/orientation and each molecular cohesion is different, meaning he sense as if it is the perfect form a material can ever be.
Originally posted by wolverex84btw didnt scientist dude say that one of components of caps shield was alien origin?? (maybe the catalyst or the vibranium dont remember now)
its the properties of each atoms/molecule/bonds of silver surfers board and caps shield,not only are they near-indestructable but the way the molecules Aline themselves was unlike anything he had seen from most previous materials, especially caps shield, i think it is the unknown catalyst that is bonding the iron and vibranium that MM says its weird, hence, the bond angle/orientation and each molecular cohesion is different, meaning he sense as if it is the perfect form a material can ever be.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Good question... I'm a bit surprised people rarely discuss that.We have Thor denting Cap's shield which is supposed to be harder than primary adamantium. Thing is, Thor had Odinforce then.
MM was most impressed with the shield, though. Not Mjolnir.
Pity there wasn't primary adamantium around so MM could compare them.
Thor's hammer has dented celestial armor, im sure its probobly tougher then adamantium. If its not thats stupid, especially due to the fact that its a earthly metal.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
hell yeah
classic MM is almost equal 2 classic beyonder (he can destroy like 1 billion universe with his energy blast iirc)but then MM said he wuz < Infinity (or is it Eternity) whos <<< classic beyonder
so now hes a lot weakerok but this goes for mjolnir too 😄
I think not.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
btw didnt scientist dude say that one of components of caps shield was alien origin?? (maybe the catalyst or the vibranium dont remember now)
Originally posted by SoulDevourer
intersting
but maybe he wuz only comenting on the metal & not the magic (plane uru is alien metal so its "exotic"😉
Originally posted by darthgoobernope your right that must be it 🙂 the vibranium was alien
Vibranium comes from a large meteor that fell to Earth if I'm not mistaken, that's probably what he was talking about(assuming I'm right about it's origin anyway).
If I remember the instance correctly, he said that the Molecules in Thor's hammer had strange energies intertwining that made them tough to separate, the alien molecules in Surfer's board were just weird, but the molecules in Cap's shield were weirdest of all. He was actually going to go into detail about it but got interrupted, but he definitely left the impression that Cap's shield had the most interesting make up.come 2 think of it that make sense : IMO he meant that caps shield has more complex moleculer makeup
It is my impression that adamantium is more durable than Mjolnir. Although Magneto can screw around with primary adamantium but not Mjolnir... still Mjolnir has been shattered a lot more than adamantium has been. And in terms of pure cracking, denting or shattering, adamantium is better.
Also, it is my distinct impression that Thor denting and subsequently destroying Cap's shield was retconned. Thor literally betrayed the Avengers in the former storyline and it's never been referenced again.
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Thor's Hammer is always broken1. It broke into pieces when he used it against Exitar.
2. Perrikus the Dark God cut it in half.
3. It broke during Thor dissasembledPure Primary Adamantium has never been broken
Adamantium owns URU.
mjolnir is a weapon so its been thru a LOT more "trials" then adamantium. like destroyer beam, godblast, magic axe from dark gods & other asgard-level attacks. obviously its got bigger chance o being broken but like all these example show it take at least skyfather level force (cosmic) to damage enchanted uru.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It is my impression that adamantium is more durable than Mjolnir. Although Magneto can screw around with primary adamantium but not Mjolnir... still Mjolnir has been shattered a lot more than adamantium has been. And in terms of pure cracking, denting or shattering, adamantium is better.Also, it is my distinct impression that Thor denting and subsequently destroying Cap's shield was retconned. Thor literally betrayed the Avengers in the former storyline and it's never been referenced again.
True but everytime Mjolnir broke it was back with somesort of magic.
Magneto trash it like you said ripped right out of poor logan and Odinforce vaporaized it.
Uru over adamantium