Originally posted by Kris BlazeYes. Same way future Kitty Pryde did in Days of Future Past. And any such events that occurred in either story diverge into an alternate timeline.
Actually, that is the original 616 timeline.You do realize that once Thor changed time, he changed how 616 would ACTUALLY have become?
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Actually, that is the original 616 timeline.You do realize that once Thor changed time, he changed how 616 would ACTUALLY have become?
Are we sure he changed the timeline or did he just reset everything and wiped out everyone's memories??? Just asking the question i never got to read the last issue of rune king Thor was it stated he did that???
Originally posted by DarkOdineven if he changed timeline he didnt change the rules of timeline he only "rewind" events. soo if he pwned caps shield in alternate timeline it prove he can do it in currant 616 timeline too
Are we sure he changed the timeline or did he just reset everything and wiped out everyone's memories??? Just asking the question i never got to read the last issue of rune king Thor was it stated he did that???
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Are we sure he changed the timeline or did he just reset everything and wiped out everyone's memories??? Just asking the question i never got to read the last issue of rune king Thor was it stated he did that???
It didn't happen as Rune King Thor, that happened years later.
Thor had taken over the world'n whatnot, but went back in time and stopped the events that lead to him killing everyone. This created a different time-line, one where he did not take over earth. Which is the one we refer to as 616.
It's like with Legion.
---------1 The original timeline
---------2 AoA timeline where Legion killed Xavier
---------3 Timeline where Bishop killed Legion.
The 1st one was erased when Legion went back in time, and then Bishop went back to before that and killed Legion. This does not restore Timeline 1, that's gone forever. It simply creates a new one, where Legion didn't get to kill Xavier.
We don't credit timeline 3 characters with AoA feats normally.
However in Thor's case it happened in less than a month after the events that changed the timeline. Thor breaking Cap's shield or ****ing up Wolverine was erased, but it's still proof that it's possible. Nothing is different, Cap or Wolverine didn't change.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeI think what you mean is that Wolverine's skeleton was destroyed some 20 years in the future in The Reigning. Did his adamantium get weaker for some unexplained reason in those 20 years? We don't know. A single Sentinel killed Wolverine some 20+ years in Days of Future Past by incinerating him. Did his healing factor get weaker in those 20+ years for some unexplained reason? We don't know.
Hmm, Wolverine's skeleton probably became less durable that week after Thor reset the timeline.
These are alternate futures and lots of zonky things happen that don't make sense. It's perfectly reasonable that an Odinforce eyebeam can destroy primary adamantium, but because alternate future stories are zonky as a general matter, we don't consider them citable as evidence. We only care about 616 unless stated otherwise and alternate futures are not 616.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
It didn't happen as Rune King Thor, that happened years later.Thor had taken over the world'n whatnot, but went back in time and stopped the events that lead to him killing everyone. This created a different time-line, one where he did not take over earth. Which is the one we refer to as 616.
It's like with Legion.
---------1 The original timeline
---------2 AoA timeline where Legion killed Xavier
---------3 Timeline where Bishop killed Legion.The 1st one was erased when Legion went back in time, and then Bishop went back to before that and killed Legion. This does not restore Timeline 1, that's gone forever. It simply creates a new one, where Legion didn't get to kill Xavier.
We don't credit timeline 3 characters with AoA feats normally.
However in Thor's case it happened in less than a month after the events that changed the timeline. Thor breaking Cap's shield or ****ing up Wolverine was erased, but it's still proof that it's possible. Nothing is different, Cap or Wolverine didn't change.
Cool thanks for the explaination
Originally posted by OneDumbG0'
I think what you mean is that Wolverine's skeleton was destroyed some 20 years in the future in The Reigning. Did his adamantium get weaker for some unexplained reason in those 20 years? We don't know. A single Sentinel killed Wolverine some 20+ years in Days of Future Past by incinerating him. Did his healing factor get weaker in those 20+ years for some unexplained reason? We don't know.These are alternate futures and lots of zonky things happen that don't make sense. It's perfectly reasonable that an Odinforce eyebeam can destroy primary adamantium, but because alternate future stories are zonky as a general matter, we don't consider them citable as evidence. We only care about 616 unless stated otherwise and alternate futures are not 616.
But it wasn't 20 years, it was a couple of months.
That's why I feel that it's proof of adamantium being breakable.
Originally posted by Kris BlazeIIRC, it's a bunch of years. The Reigning was published in 2003? There is a caption that states what year it is when Cap, Wolverine and Dr. Strange meet up to discuss their plans to assault Thor. The year was like 2023 or something. I don't have my comic in front of me. Someone please check.
'But it wasn't 20 years, it was a couple of months.
That's why I feel that it's proof of adamantium being breakable.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
IIRC, it's a bunch of years. The Reigning was published in 2003? There is a caption that states what year it is when Cap, Wolverine and Dr. Strange meet up to discuss their plans to assault Thor. The year was like 2023 or something. I don't have my comic in front of me. Someone please check.
If you are correct then I'll retract my statement. If it really was years, then the example is no different than AoA or Days of future past.
I'll go take a look.
We are looking at this all wrong. Mjolnir is usually thicker than the adamantium it strikes. This is no fair comparison.
Imagine we have a thin sheet of magical Uru and an Adamantium hammer the shape of Mjolnir instead. Let Thor strike this sheet with the hammer with all his might. What happens?
That's right!
Adamantium>>>mystical Uru
here we go again 😄
Originally posted by h1a8u mean earth >>> asgard?
That's right!
Adamantium>>>mystical Uru
We are looking at this all wrong. Mjolnir is usually thicker than the adamantium it strikes. This is no fair comparison.thor wuz striking tip of small cylinder so if cylinder wuz harder then it shoud have dented hammer
now u look it this way : use big plastic hammer and strike steel edge. u think hammer gonna dent the steel? lol
Imagine we have a thin sheet of magical Uru and an Adamantium hammer the shape of Mjolnir instead. Let Thor strike this sheet with the hammer with all his might. What happens?if sheet is thin enuff yeah but thats got nothing 2 do with the hammer vs cylinder thing
Originally posted by SoulDevourerThor struck with the edge of the hammer.
here we go again 😄
u mean earth >>> asgard?
thor wuz striking tip of small cylinder so if cylinder wuz harder then it shoud have dented hammer
remember what U said about pressure?
I can create a very small dent in steel with a heavy rubber hammer. But I understand what you are saying. The question is whether the durability of the object striking is sufficiently in the vicinity of the durability of the object its strikes. Give me a plastic hammer that has sufficient mass and I will indeed dent the steel.
now u look it this way : use big plastic hammer and strike steel edge. u think hammer gonna dent the steel? lol
if sheet is thin enuff yeah but thats got nothing 2 do with the hammer vs cylinder thing
if sheet is thin enuff yeah but thats got nothing 2 do with the hammer vs cylinder thing.
If one strikes with the edge.