Originally posted by Symmetric Chaosshe-hulk is seriously not class 75. She is class 100. And she used to be class 75. But she was weaker than the thing. And certianly not much faster.
She-Hulk is pretty consistently Class75. And both she and Namor are much faster and more agile than anyone on the Strongmen team.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWthey weren't blows so much as claw swipes...which is kinda different as in the latter isn't a clear indication of strength per say
Pretty much every Wendigo is Class 100. These scans just prove that this Wendy incarnation wasn't particularly weaker than the previous ones... considering that three blows KO'd Sassy.
just as creed beating wendigo is no indication that creed is anywhere close to cl100
Originally posted by Trackzone of them was ripping a sentinal apart with his bare hands and singlehandedly tossing tanks around..
didnt he beat sinisters supermen wit hPIS, plus I'm not sure if there was evidence that they were class 100, they had super strength they didn't have many feats with it though.
Originally posted by Starscream M
they weren't blows so much as claw swipes...which is kinda different as in the latter isn't a clear indication of strength per sayjust as creed beating wendigo is no indication that creed is anywhere close to cl100
Thing is, Wendy took the punishment from Walter, then knocked him down and overpowered him. Kinda like classic Wendy would do.
Originally posted by Starscream MHow is that irrelivent?
sparring is completely irrelevant...sabretooth may very well have better stamina, which is not a point of dispute.
Originally posted by Starscream MNo it's not. 🤨 it's SUPPORTED speculation... and there's a world of difference.
also, its complete utter speculation that logan can cut through Colossus.
Originally posted by Starscream MAgain, baseless statment that's totally unsupported.
Logan's claws may be sharp enough, but logan is way too weak to push them deep. If superman had those claws, he may cut colossus, not logan.
Wolverine thinks he can cut Colussus, Colussus thinks he can cut Colussus, the only time he ever tried, he did damage. Rogues Wolverine claws went through Colussus' skin, Wolverine cut through Memic's C-skin like butter, Sym stabbed Collusus with a brittle non 616 Wolverine claw, Wolverine cuts people as durable as Collusus, More durable than Collusus... etc etc etc.....
Originally posted by Starscream M
AHAHHahahah do you realize the ridiculousness of what you're saying?!so hulk needs help to beat wendigo but Sabretooth could rip wendigo apart like buttah?
do you not see something wrong with that?
oh yeah, of course not, not with those biased spectacles you have on
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Hulk and Sabretooth inflict DIFFERENT types of damage.. and that difference matters... 😐
In any case you're nitpicking now just because you got proved wrong. like usual.
Originally posted by Starscream MExactly, we're discussing Tooth who time and time again shows to be equivolent/superior to Wolverine in fights on a consistent basis.... how the shame I should use such a point for comparison.....
nice, bring wolverine into the equation when we were discussing tooth, but of course you can't help yourself
How them straws treatin you?
Originally posted by Starscream MSo you DO understand the difference when it suits you... interesting.
they weren't blows so much as claw swipes...which is kinda different as in the latter isn't a clear indication of strength per sayjust as creed beating wendigo is no indication that creed is anywhere close to cl100
Originally posted by jinzin
How is that irrelivent?
It porves that Sabretooth can outlast apooped out Colussus without a scratch to show for it.No it's not. 🤨 it's SUPPORTED speculation... and there's a world of difference.
Again, baseless statment that's totally unsupported.
Wolverine thinks he can cut Colussus, Colussus thinks he can cut Colussus, the only time he ever tried, he did damage. Rogues Wolverine claws went through Colussus' skin, Wolverine cut through Memic's C-skin like butter, Sym stabbed Collusus with a brittle non 616 Wolverine claw, Wolverine cuts people as durable as Collusus, More durable than Collusus... etc etc etc.....
1. stamina is irrelevant because they were sparring. sparring is not real fighting, its going through motions. In a real fight, colossus could grab sabretooth and beat his head to a pulp, something he wouldnt attempt in a sparring session.
2. because a character thinks he can be cut is no real evidence...its still speculation unless his thinking was backed up by something.
3. rogue is over 100times stronger than wolverine...so the fact that she can cut him means nothing for the runt. second, mentioning mimic is pointless, he's not colossus.
4. who has wolverine cut that was more durable than colossus...or did you pull out more crapola from your behind?
Originally posted by Starscream MWhat? When? Are you talking about that classic appearance? Are you not aware that Sabretooth's had upgrades since then? I suppose you're even less aware that AOA tooth easily handled a she-hulk to boot.
and she still owned tooth...which diminishes tooth's chance against a legit class 100
Originally posted by jinzinactually wolverine is far superior to sabretooth, as I even said initially wolverine is the only legit threat
Exactly, we're discussing Tooth who time and time again shows to be equivolent/superior to Wolverine in fights on a consistent basis.... how the shame I should use such a point for comparison.....How them straws treatin you?
wolverine's adamantium skeleton means he's basically unkillable...whereas sabretooth would be a playtoy for anyone on team 2...they could smash sabretooth apart like a porcelain doll, something they cant do to logan
for someone who claims to be a fan of logan, you sure do underestimate him
Originally posted by jinzin
Colossus thinks Wolverine can hurt him enough to back off:
1. http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/8281/colossusclawsyp6.jpgCable's jobber aura is at an all time high even in stryfe form. Anywho, as of 2000 Colossus seems to be under the impression that Wolverine CAN cut him... to the bone even.
1. http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8845/wolvcolossus7xnaw2.jpg
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Credit for this one goes to the OP.
I won't bother posting all these examples jinzin listed; too tired right now. Can't you see that Piotr's always been afraid of Logan's claws?
Originally posted by Starscream M
1. stamina is irrelevant because they were sparring. sparring is not real fighting, its going through motions. In a real fight, colossus could grab sabretooth and beat his head to a pulp, something he wouldnt attempt in a sparring session.
lol you telling me what sparring is....
lmao.
Sparring isn't real fightin with an intent, but it IS relivent to fights... For instance, if you can't land a blow on someone in sparring chances are you'll fail to hit them in a fight.
If someone outlasts you in sparring, chances are they'll do the same ina fight. It's quite relivent.
In a real fight, C would have to catch him and force him down first, which he proved he could not do... see? relivent!
Originally posted by Starscream MWhich it is.. so there you are being foolish again...
2. because a character thinks he can be cut is no real evidence...its still speculation unless his thinking was backed up by something.
Originally posted by Starscream MThe skin offered no resistence. at no point does she ever comment on needing to use her strength to get through.
3. rogue is over 100times stronger than wolverine...so the fact that she can cut him means nothing for the runt. second, mentioning mimic is pointless, he's not colossus.
Originally posted by Starscream MWorld War Hulk for starters.
4. who has wolverine cut that was more durable than colossus...or did you pull out more crapola from your behind?
Originally posted by Starscream M
actually wolverine is far superior to sabretooth, as I even said initially wolverine is the only legit threatwolverine's adamantium skeleton means he's basically unkillable...whereas sabretooth would be a playtoy for anyone on team 2...they could smash sabretooth apart like a porcelain doll, something they cant do to logan
for someone who claims to be a fan of logan, you sure do underestimate him
OP said that Creed gets his adamantium for this fight. Got any proof that his joints were vulnerable? 😬
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWyes I don't deny that Piotr is afraid of Logan's claws...however that hardly proves that Logan's claws would prove to have ACTUAL harm against Priotr
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Credit for this one goes to the OP.I won't bother posting all these examples jinzin listed; too tired right now. Can't you see that Piotr's always been afraid of Logan's claws?
Originally posted by Starscream MIs that why Sabretooth regularly beats his ass on his Birthday?
actually wolverine is far superior to sabretooth, as I even said initially wolverine is the only legit threat
The only reason Wolverine even remotely presents a challange to Sabretooth is because Sabretooth never takes him seriously... EVER. The only time Sabes has been in a rage fighting Wolverine, she downed Logan in 2 pages.
Originally posted by Starscream MFirst of all, even regular Sabes could take massive damage from bricks without being injured. Rogue, Killpowers, Ms. Marvel and Superboy are all evidence of that. Second, this is ADMANTIUMIZED Sabes.. read the initial post.
wolverine's adamantium skeleton means he's basically unkillable...whereas sabretooth would be a playtoy for anyone on team 2...they could smash sabretooth apart like a porcelain doll, something they cant do to logan
Originally posted by Starscream Mbecause why?
for someone who claims to be a fan of logan, you sure do underestimate him
Originally posted by jinzinyou are either purposely going on tangents or just dense...perhaps both.
World War Hulk for starters.
WWHulk is not more DURABLE than colossus. However, he has a far better HF.
I know you know the distinction between the two, jinzin. don't feign ignorance.
so please humor me, who has logan cut that is more "DURABLE" than colossu?
