Link vs Cloud

Started by Terryc2502 pages

Well it killed Sephiroth who has instant regeneration, it killed him because Omnislash is not even physical, and really has no properties, it was just a plot move to kill whatever it lands on. The only thing i can think it does is that it cuts through the soul multiple times.

Oh, and it also renders the opponent Immobile before it lands.

There's no proof of any of that, Terry.

Besides, Cloud needs to get real fired up to do that, and Link can oneshot him before that happens. Every one of Link's swings is a one shot, Cloud has one special one saved up somewhere with no feats to show it could harm Link.

Seph's regen=/= durability. I could stab wolverine, hed just heal, it'd still hurt him. Same seems to apply to Seph.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Well it killed Sephiroth who has instant regeneration, it killed him because Omnislash is not even physical, and really has no properties, it was just a plot move to kill whatever it lands on. The only thing i can think it does is that it cuts through the soul multiple times.

Oh, and it also renders the opponent Immobile before it lands.

no proof for seph's regeneration he need the clone.

Originally posted by Phanteros
no proof for seph's regeneration he need the clone.

Huh? The "clones" were simply parts of Jenova, in which Sephiroth after FF7 became the core entity.

Right from the UOG:

"Due to its amazing regeneration capabilities, Jenova's divided cells reunite to become one again."\

Statement from the Reunion Files:

"One of the properties Jenova possesses is that separated pieces of flesh, called cells, will regenerate back to their original form"

Now lets look at this logically, throughout FF7 game (while Sephiroth is ALIVE), Sephiroth used pieces of Jenova, each piece would fully transform into Sephiroth, Sephiroth being the new Jenova. Does the mass of the arm, or the mass of the leg equal up to Sephiroth? No. So how does he transform? Easily, he uses part of Jenovas ability stated from above, REGENERATION. He regenerates his original arms, legs, ever appearance, even his sword, from a piece of Jenova leg or arm.

Now in AC, Sephiroth is dead, he cannot do anything with the Jenova cells, which is his power. What he can do is guide his spirit body (stated by the UOG that the trio were Spirit bodies) to take in Jenova's cells, in that box. That would revive Sephiroth. So once Kadaj took in the cells, what happens? The same thing he has been doing in FF7, he fully regenerates his arm, legs, his entire being, even his sword. It wouldn't have made a difference if Kadaj was a midget, a 50 lb kid, or a dog the size of an arm, or anything, as long as the Jenova cells were there, he would regenerate his full form.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
There's no proof of any of that, Terry.

Besides, Cloud needs to get real fired up to do that, and Link can oneshot him before that happens. Every one of Link's swings is a one shot, Cloud has one special one saved up somewhere with no feats to show it could harm Link.

Seph's regen=/= durability. I could stab wolverine, hed just heal, it'd still hurt him. Same seems to apply to Seph.

And everyone of Clouds swings is a one shot as well, Link cannot survive decapitation.

And if you're making some kind of Amalgan Link, then I could make an Amalgan Cloud with all his best materia and equipment, which can basically make him immortal.

Lol, no. Cloud cannot one shot any form of Link.

I'm only using OoT Link, who easily one shots Cloud, I've never seen anythign out of Cloud to show strength on par with Link's durability. How would cloud decapitate someone who can tank hits that not only cut stone, but utterly disintegrate it? Or tank the destruction of the MOON at ground zero?

Edit: An amalgam Link would make this beyond spite even vs an amalgam Cloud which is what I was expecting anyway tbh.

Can you show me Link tanking a moon explosion?

Voyeur posted it already.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Voyeur posted it already.

he posted a 16 minute video clip which I don't feel like watching all of, so perhaps tell me the time frame?

Originally posted by Terryc250
he posted a 16 minute video clip which I don't feel like watching all of, so perhaps tell me the time frame?

from 3:36 to 5:15

and my summary and description of the scene should of been enough but make sure to read that while viewing over the clip.

And you should probably stick to the Sephiroth one, since he's much more of an amusing challenge then Cloud. You yourself Cloud is nothing except PSI and really has nothing in his case besides it.

Omnislash btw is clearly physical.

Omni would translate to multiple

Slash; noun
to cut with a violent sweeping stroke or by striking violently and at random, as with a knife or sword.

With the very move at hand broken down, it is as clear as day that it is a physical attack. I'm also guess that Omnislashes damage relies on the strength of the character, not materia. It in no, way, shape or form translates into being a move that transcends into a soul based damaging move.

It just is a bunch of really fancy, fast, slashes with the cliche anime bull shit of slicing through something that doesn't fall apart immediately.

So Link could Block with his Shield. Or put up Nayru's love, and earlier you said Farore's Wind can't be instant cast, well it can. Clearly with Link would be able to set it up while on the run and port back to a point later if you want to be anal of its restrictions.