Originally posted by chomperx9
the chick also forgot that hulk has a healing factor. hulk has taken out juggernaut before. colossus would get raped by juggy
WTF does Juggernaut have to do with anything? those are different circumstances. Hulks strength is dynamic and his hf allows for him to hang with Juggernaut. Colossus unfortunately for the xman has a plateau, and cain will trump him everytime. However this is not what the discussion is about, every incarnation of Hulk I've seen thus far has shown him being stabbed cut or punctured. its his healing factor that moves at lightning speed to recover the damage. He is infact being cut, he's just healing at a rate that would make the casual observer think otherwise
Originally posted by Sin I AMmy point bringing juggernaut into it is that if hulk can take some hard licks from juggy and still stand in the fight that shows hes more durable with muscle. colossus would get his ass kicked anytime by juggy.
WTF does Juggernaut have to do with anything? those are different circumstances. Hulks strength is dynamic and his hf allows for him to hang with Juggernaut. Colossus unfortunately for the xman has a plateau, and cain will trump him everytime. However this is not what the discussion is about, every incarnation of Hulk I've seen thus far has shown him being stabbed cut or punctured. its his healing factor that moves at lightning speed to recover the damage. He is infact being cut, he's just healing at a rate that would make the casual observer think otherwise
Originally posted by snoopdoggyep good point
Anybody read Secret Wars? Out of all the heroes Colossus' body was less ravaged from the blast from the uber-Doom. That inlcuded the likes of Thor, Hulk, and Thing. It was more blunt force though.
out of pure durability (meaning without factoring HF), Colossus is the MOST durable being on marvel earth besides classic juggernaut
Dude, you do realize this is about resistance to sharp attacks like bullets and blades and what not. Hulks skin and muscle have been pierced a bunch of times, whereas Colossus has not. And we already brought this up, Colossus loses, but in no way does he get his ass kicked.
And yes, in my opinion, Colossus is the most durable mortal human character in Marvel besides Juggs. Wonder Man don't count.
I recall logan and hulk fighting a wendigo. logan attempted to slash hulk but it appeared to have no effect and logan paid dearly for that mistake. but once he attacked the canadian, he was able to cut him so he changed his tactics and helped fight the wendigo. but I think (correct me if im wrong) that general ross or whoever created the gamma corps, found traces of Hulks blood after that fight and presumably it was because of logans claws. so yet again it appeared as if he wasn't cut but in actuality he was
Originally posted by chomperx9Juggernaut was not sliceing or stabing him was he? He was punching an using blunt force. We know Hulk is more impact resistant but we are not talking about that.
my point bringing juggernaut into it is that if hulk can take some hard licks from juggy and still stand in the fight that shows hes more durable with muscle. colossus would get his ass kicked anytime by juggy.
Originally posted by KingD19
Technically, Ultron is a robot, so he doesn't count. I guess you could count Cyber, since his whole body is made of adamantium.
He said "being" not person/human/living thing/mutant/etc.
Ultron is a sentient machine, so he/she/it counts as a "being". 🙂
And yes, Cyber should count.
Well Sentry is usually considered to be up there with cosmic entities, so I don't know if he counts, and you're right Ultron is a runner, but Hulk busted at least a small crack in him, in which Wasp flew in and messed up his circuits. It took WWH to bend Colossus arms back, and it's the first time he's ever been hurt that bad, besides getting hit by Pete Wisdom's knives.
Originally posted by KingD19
Well Sentry is usually considered to be up there with cosmic entities, so I don't know if he counts, and you're right Ultron is a runner, but Hulk busted at least a small crack in him, in which Wasp flew in and messed up his circuits. It took WWH to bend Colossus arms back, and it's the first time he's ever been hurt that bad, besides getting hit by Pete Wisdom's knives.
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