Hmm.
That is just escalation of problem. Chinese were wrong to mess about American soldiers since people on ships had to take emergency action - which in itself could have caused accident.
However, this reaction by Obama is just unhelpful, aggressive and could prove dangerous considering Chinese are buying off America debt.
Public condemnation by Obama, or a complaint to Chinese authorities would have been sufficient. Chinese authorities would have dealt with this in the manner that is appropriate.
Sending heavily armed ships in South China sea is not very diplomatic or mature. And Obama's inability to be diplomatic and not hot headed in the most crucial of moments may cost Americans.
Responsible leaders do all is necessary to reduce possibilities of harm to the country and people they lead.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Sending heavily armed ships in South China sea is not very diplomatic or mature.
especially considering that the Chinese don't recognize the international waters.
Like, ok, so he might be right in the eyes of the UN and international law, but given the chinese obviously don't care about those things... Blah, where is Orwell when you need him.
Obama's inability to be diplomatic and not hot headed in the most crucial of moments may cost Americans.
During the campaign and beginning of the $ crisis he showed his ability to remain levelheaded; he is now trying to prove to the country (and world) that he can stand up to other nations. This was most likely motivated more by domestic politics than by relations with the Chinese.
Originally posted by inimalist
especially considering that the Chinese don't recognize the international waters.Like, ok, so he might be right in the eyes of the UN and international law, but given the chinese obviously don't care about those things... Blah, where is Orwell when you need him.
Its hilarious for anyone in the USA to invoke international law when USA has repetedly broke it, has ignored UNSC and continues to ignore it.
American administration should be ashamed to utter words UN, or international law. Particulary those who have been involved in administration for the past 30 years.
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
During the campaign and beginning of the $ crisis he showed his ability to remain levelheaded; he is now trying to prove to the country (and world) that he can stand up to other nations. This was most likely motivated more by domestic politics than by relations with the Chinese.
My personal opinion is that he shouldn't have done that. However, from the perspective of Obama, I am sure if he had acted in proper manner he would have come under attack for ''kneeling'' to Chinese.
Its a lose-lose. But that is the curse of being US president...amongst other things.
There are probably more cost effective and less invasive ways of collecting "data" than what was being done. I shouldn't say, "probably" because there are. I'm referring to Satellites and the like. Those may sound expensive, short term, because they are. But, long term, they actually cost less and are more effective concerning the intended target of evaluation. (Depending on the evaluation goals.)
This could also function more diplomatically.
However. I don't think we need to be doing too much spying to begin with. I mean...why? Are we that scurd?
I would rather spend that money on domestic problems.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Why is it a few guys on a forum can realise the foolery of sending battleships into Chinese waters but the leader of the United states cannot?......
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
My personal opinion is that he shouldn't have done that. However, from the perspective of Obama, I am sure if he had acted in proper manner he would have come under attack for ''kneeling'' to Chinese.
Its a lose-lose. But that is the curse of being US president...amongst other things.
I think that about sums it up.