Composite Link vs. Pyron

Started by ThunderGodEneru8 pages

Originally posted by Burning thought
Link afaik has the completed triforce, whats Pyron going to do to escape being made non excistent? ofc thats if ime wrong, and that Link can actually wish for it himself and not have it choose his deepest desire for him.
Since he is, you know, more powerful than the Triforce, he won't be affected.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Since he is, you know, more powerful than the Triforce, he won't be affected.

Nah as i said, thats a moronic statement imo, the triforce wiping out Pyron would mean Pyron is weaker than the triforce, Pyron has zero feats to consider that he could survive being wiped out, him being physically more powerful means shit, he could bust a billion universes, it wouldnt mean anything to his resistance to being wished away.

if you had the Triforce and wanted Pyron to win, he'd win.

But Link has it, so you can't Q_Q

Originally posted by Burning thought
Nah as i said, thats a moronic statement imo, the triforce wiping out Pyron would mean Pyron is weaker than the triforce, Pyron has zero feats to consider that he could survive being wiped out, him being physically more powerful means shit, he could bust a billion universes, it wouldnt mean anything to his resistance to being wished away.
BT, you can't be this stupid.

A. The Triforce has never "wished away" anything.

B. If Pyron is more powerful than the Triforce, and the very deities that made it, why would he be succeptible to their power? The Goddesses powers are very limited compared to Pyron's. Din made the barren, red Earth, Farore made life, Nayru made the law of the land(which I assume to be shit like gravity), all things Pyron is capable of doing to a higher scale, actually being able to remake planets from scratch. He is not physically more powerful, he is more of a "God" than they will ever be, their powers Pyron has, only to a higher level.

@Voyeur

You admitted the Triforce is more powerful than Pyron, it cannot kill or depower him.

A: but its power is based on a rish no?

B: Powerful in what way? your making a paradoxical stupidity statement because the very triforce your stating is apprently weaker than him can wish him away, therefore they would be more powerful than him.

So Pyron has created an object that gives beings a wish, and when has he done these things like making gravity and remaking planets?

You took what I said completely out of context and I'll be nice and not point out your obvious mistake from "is more" to "isn't more"

I said, more powerful then the goddesses, yes.
PROBABLY more powerful then the Triforce. That isn't 100% proven either way.

and it boils down to the fact, the power of desire in a person's heart and those who lust and have an unquenchable want. How can Pyron' defeat what one desires? and if that Desire is to have Pyron no longer be. That is what the power becomes.

Also, you proved me right about Ganon not being able to use the Triforce but I really don't want to get into that discussion on here or in general to be honest.

Due to the plot in the story the Triforce has been limited to what ever the person who had it had been trying to do. So that's retarded to say "well the Triforce only showed restoring the entire land of Hyrule back to a normal and peaceful state, that doesn't mean it's capable of galactic or wishing away stuff."

I mean, if you're going to be narrow minded on the description of the Triforce, what's the point? And you could just ban it from the Composite Link if you really wanted too.

I said earlier this discussion would just turn into how the Triforce works and battling others perceptions of it.

and so far, Link is invisible and invulnerable, intangible, for ever and unlimited so by the fact of Magic Cape and Chateau Romani.

And at this current stage of the debate has his unbridled desires to come true, that even being to wish Pyron out of existence.

You're not even fighting Link. You're fighting the Triforce and the interpretation of it. Which, if you want I'll go through bit by bit of all the records and quotes from games that even involve the damn thing and we'll debunk this.

EDIT: and BT brings up a good point, the Goddesses are able to Form and create an entire existing planet, then the laws of physics, time and so forth to the Land, and then even every single life form and being upon it. While reascending into the "heavens" creating a force point called the Sacred Realm, with their powers up for grab at anyone's disposal who is able to find this place. The power of Gold, the sacred triangle, the Triforce, being able to become anything a person's heart desires in turn, and it is not left to random deciphering of the Triforce, but actual literal want of the weilder. Has Pyron been able to make life? not just destory it....if not then he actually probably isn't even stronger then the Goddesses.

The fact is he cant, TGE has a strange complex in his mind where beings who are simply apprently "more powerful" by his own derranged opinion is imedialtey immune to anything he belives smaller than it. His argument may as well be "Pyronz is bigzor so he is immunes to triforce!"

Originally posted by Burning thought
The fact is he cant, TGE has a strange complex in his mind where beings who are simply apprently "more powerful" by his own derranged opinion is imedialtey immune to anything he belives smaller than it. His argument may as well be "Pyronz is bigzor so he is immunes to triforce!"
I guess that is why I'm considered an authority on this forum and you a biased idiot?

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
I guess that is why I'm considered an authority on this forum and you a biased idiot?

durlaugh

yeah and Pyronz size makes him immune to powerz!

Originally posted by Voyeur
You took what I said completely out of context and I'll be nice and not point out your obvious mistake from "is more" to "isn't more"

I said, more powerful then the goddesses, yes.
PROBABLY more powerful then the Triforce. That isn't 100% proven either way.

and it boils down to the fact, the power of desire in a person's heart and those who lust and have an unquenchable want. How can Pyron' defeat what one desires? and if that Desire is to have Pyron no longer be. That is what the power becomes.

Also, you proved me right about Ganon not being able to use the Triforce but I really don't want to get into that discussion on here or in general to be honest.

Due to the plot in the story the Triforce has been limited to what ever the person who had it had been trying to do. So that's retarded to say "well the Triforce only showed restoring the entire land of Hyrule back to a normal and peaceful state, that doesn't mean it's capable of galactic or wishing away stuff."

I mean, if you're going to be narrow minded on the description of the Triforce, what's the point? And you could just ban it from the Composite Link if you really wanted too.

I said earlier this discussion would just turn into how the Triforce works and battling others perceptions of it.

and so far, Link is invisible and invulnerable, intangible, for ever and unlimited so by the fact of Magic Cape and Chateau Romani.

And at this current stage of the debate has his unbridled desires to come true, that even being to wish Pyron out of existence.

You're not even fighting Link. You're fighting the Triforce and the interpretation of it. Which, if you want I'll go through bit by bit of all the records and quotes from games that even involve the damn thing and we'll debunk this.

EDIT: and BT brings up a good point, the Goddesses are able to Form and create an entire existing planet, then the laws of physics, time and so forth to the Land, and then even every single life form and being upon it. While reascending into the "heavens" creating a force point called the Sacred Realm, with their powers up for grab at anyone's disposal who is able to find this place. The power of Gold, the sacred triangle, the Triforce, being able to become anything a person's heart desires in turn, and it is not left to random deciphering of the Triforce, but actual literal want of the weilder. Has Pyron been able to make life? not just destory it....if not then he actually probably isn't even stronger then the Goddesses.

1. He has feats above them all.

2. ...Desire is not a power, the Triforce is the power, it just acts on your desires, but if the Triforce is not as powerful as something it is being used to destroy, then it won't.

3. He did use it, to warp the Sacred Realm.

4. That and the very Goddesses that created it are not. To say the Triforce is capable of something the goddesses who made it are not is retarded. Canonically, it is only a fraction of their power.

5. No need to.

6. I know how it works, but also know that to say it works on as grand a scale as you say it does is a No-Limits fallacy.

7. No-Limit fallacies.

8. No-Limit fallacy.

9. I know what it can do thank you.

10. Not true. The planet existed before-hand, but it was in a chaotic state. Time existed, Din created the red Earth, Farore created life, and Nayru created law.

Pyron has actually taken in and remade planets, he then assimilated them into orbit around him with an orbital range of 400,000 lightyears. Yeah, his feat is better.

Nah not really better, all hes done is made energy of planets, show me the evidence that he actually created planets with life and other crap? And the 400k lightyears was not done in one day.....its actually a pretty useless feat in any debate.

Also saying the Triforce can wish pyron away is not a no limits fallacy, because he wouldnt be a limit, he has zero resistance to such powers.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Nah not really better, all hes done is made energy of planets, show me the evidence that he actually created planets with life and other crap? And the 400k lightyears was not done in one day.....its actually a pretty useless feat in any debate.

Also saying the Triforce can wish pyron away is not a no limits fallacy, because he wouldnt be a limit, he has zero resistance to such powers.

1. Never said he did, and not that it matters, creationism is not a battle feat, and Pyron did create the army of Phobos from scratch in seconds. How so? It shows he has the power to essentially hold a galaxy together.

2. The Gods themselves are not capable of such a thing, what makes you think a fraction of their power would be?

Actually, technicly the triforce did recreate the sacred realm as the dark world and the goddesses did create hyrule and the world sorrounding it.

I already caved in. -.- I REALLY need to be dong work D:<

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Never said he did, and not that it matters, creationism is not a battle feat, and Pyron did create the army of Phobos from scratch in seconds. How so? It shows he has the power to essentially hold a galaxy together.

2. The Gods themselves are not capable of such a thing, what makes you think a fraction of their power would be?

1. It could be a passive link, not a constant holding, and it does not state what form the planets took, for example Earth became a little ring orbiting his finger. And I dont remember it saying he did it in seconds although tbh they dont count as life do they...

2. Do the Gods themselves have this "wish" power? a human can create a car, that doesnt mean a human is as durable, or as fast as the car he creates. It all depends on specific powers, if this triforce has the power of wishing for things and having those wishes coming true...then so be it...

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Actually, technicly the triforce did recreate the sacred realm as the dark world and the goddesses did create hyrule and the world sorrounding it.

I already caved in. -.- I REALLY need to be dong work D:<

True, it recreated a small dimension. But the Goddesses only changed the world, they did not create it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
1. It could be a passive link, not a constant holding, and it does not state what form the planets took, for example Earth became a little ring orbiting his finger. And I dont remember it saying he did it in seconds although tbh they dont count as life do they...

2. Do the Gods themselves have this "wish" power? a human can create a car, that doesnt mean a human is as durable, or as fast as the car he creates. It all depends on specific powers, if this triforce has the power of wishing for things and having those wishes coming true...then so be it...

1. Which would be more impressive.

Planets took a different form? Stop reaching.

We saw him do it nearly instantly in UDON, and they are>Life.

2. No, they are Gods, not Genies. A human does not create a car from himself. A human takes lesser parts and combines them into a car.

The Goddesses created the Triforce with a FRACTION of their own power, it is from them, to say it is capable of anything they are not is illogical and stupid.

According to the creation theory they descended on "chaos" and Din created the earth, Nayru gave it law, and farore gave it life.

Yet we see a re-enactment of it in OoT and we clearly see a planet.

Whoa.

Negative, in the OoT cut scene there is nothing there until the blue lgith radiates outward.

I can't believe this is still goin' on.