Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Team Superman runs the Marvel Gauntlet
Originally posted by kgkg
It doesn't really matter how he did it all he had to do is approve it and it happened.
Thats a somewhat naive assessment KG. Of course it matters how it was done. If the result is all that matters in these debates then Squirrel Girl is beyond Thanos. 😬
If we had seen a battle which resulted in Proteges defeat then yes we could conclude that Scathan was greater.
However all we see is it being said that Scathan doesnt approve and then a few pages later we see Protege with a muzzle on. That doesnt prove Scathan is greater. Theres nothing conclusive about that.
For all we know, Protege was caught by surprise and Scathan took advantage, (he had after all just gained LTs powers) or the other cosmics could have helped. Who knows? And thats the point. It was off panel therefore it is speculation to make a conclusion about something you didnt witness.
Originally posted by kgkg
Actually LT didn't do jack all he did was absorb a boy who was powerless. Scanthan did remove the muzzle but his power was still affecting the Protege.
LTs action dealt with Protege once and for all. Scathan temporarily restrained him, so thats hardly doing jack. On top of that, where was it stated that Protege was powerless after Scathan removed the muzzle? It didnt and thats that, therefore thats just more speculation from yourself.
Originally posted by kgkg
This is confirm when Eternity himself says "so it ends and Scanthan approves" this is when LT was absorbed Protege. There was no need to make the Scanthan comment than but this is a clear indication how much Scanthan was needed for Protege to be stopped
That line does not prove that Protege was powerless. How so? How does Eternity saying that line after LT's dealt with Protege confirm that Protege was powerless a few panels before? 😕
No mention was made of Proteges power status, so once again thats speculation. If you believe that happened youre welcome to, however unless its stated clearly on panel you cant claim it to be the case.
All that was said was that Protege recoiled as LT was about to dish out his judgement and Scathan held him still. As shown on panel, a physical grasp. Nothing more.
Originally posted by kgkg
Also LT could not stop Protege on his own - He had his powers
LT couldnt from what we saw, but neither could Scathan from what was shown. Scathan restrained him temporarily whilst LT exacted his final judgement which permanently dealt with Protege.
The scene doesnt show that Scathan is more powerful than LT. That scene if anything speaks for the power of Protege as it showed that the teamwork of the higher cosmics was required to put him down.
Originally posted by kgkg
We could sepculate all we want but Scanthan was referred to as the legendary Celestial also LT's own bio states Scathan Judging power saved Reality.either way Scanthan was not you average Celestial
and Hi GS
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We could speculate all we want however we cant turn around and present that speculation as fact KG.
The event happened off panel, therefore you cant make a conclusive assessment over that which you did not see for yourself.
Protege had duplicated LTs power making them equals so for Protege to be dealt with it required Scathans help to tip the balance in LTs favour. It was teamwork. Scathan restrained him temporarily, giving LT time to make and exact his judgement. Simple.
How you doing KG 😉
Just like old times. 😂
Originally posted by kgkg
Clearly imo this shows Scathan power to approve and disapprove ability were greater than LT's Judgment abilities
Not at all. Thats your opinion, not something thats conclusively shown to be the case. You need to see the difference.
You cant present to us a conclusive assessment of a scene that like us you didnt witness yourself. Thats speculation.
We dont know what happened, we only saw the result.
LT dealing with Protege and then Scathan approving isnt a clear illustration of Scathans superiority to LT. Thats just your opinion, it could just be a sign of his agreement with the action LTs decided to take. Its all about interpretation and thats the point.
Originally posted by kgkgAgain LT's own official bio says Scathan saved reality by juding agasin't him
this is something even LT could not judge
Protege had made himself LTs equal as stated he had duplicated LTs power, Scathans intervention tipped the balance in LTs favour. So the handbook is quite right to say that Scathan saved reality. However it wasnt singlehandedly as the handbook acknowledges by saying it was LT who went on to take Protege out of the picture permanently.
Teamwork between the two meant that LT could overcome Protege who had become his equal.
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
Ok, Ok, whether it's Scathan or LT does it really matter for the sake of this gauntlet? If the gauntlet's a little out of order then so what, it sure wouldn't be the first time on this forum.Please don't turn this thread into Scathan vs LT.
Sorry i blabbed on before i read this. Ok i wont talk about it anymore lol
Originally posted by Philosophía
Take Cosmic Armor Superman out, and it could get interesting.As it is, it's really not.
The IG could stop CA Supes in time, devolve him, devolve the armor to before it was made (Yes, I know that was billions of years ago), rapidly age him, BFR him into Oblivion or take him outside of Creation, transport him out of the armor, or just transmute the Cosmic Armor into an oversized Bugs Bunny suit.
Plenty of ways for Warlock and others to utterly stomp CA Supes.
Originally posted by Enyalus
The IG could stop CA Supes in time, devolve him, devolve the armor to before it was made (Yes, I know that was billions of years ago), rapidly age him, BFR him into Oblivion or take him outside of Creation, transport him out of the armor, or just transmute the Cosmic Armor into an oversized Bugs Bunny suit.Plenty of ways for Warlock and others to utterly stomp CA Supes.
You're serious ?
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
Just because they can't clear it doesn't men it's spite.Spite would mean they die at #1, which isn't the case.
No, you put a character against someone you don't think he stands a chance.
And then, you try to mock someone who thinks he does.
Thus, spite and sort of baiting aswell. 🙂
Originally posted by Philosophía
You're serious ?No, you put a character against someone you don't think he stands a chance.
And then, you try to mock someone who thinks he does.
Thus, spite and sort of baiting aswell. 🙂
I'm neither baiting nor mocking. I'm simply asking HOW one might think CA Superman clears this...it's a legitimate question.
Originally posted by Philosophía
You're serious ?
Yeah. Mandrakk didn't attempt to do anything exotic to Supes when sporting the cosmic armor. And even if the armor was capable of protecting itself (which it clearly cannot fully, due to the fact it was damaged on panel), there's certainly no indication that it could shield Superman from being de-aged or rapidly aged with the time gem. Or stop him from being BFR'd.
