Originally posted by lawest9Spectre still receives his power from the presence, but that doesn't make him the presence.
When i started this thread, i didn't specify which version of spectre that is being used here, so, let me add my two cents, if this is current spec, than it's a toss up, however if this is pre-crisis spec who derived his power from God himself, then no number of celestials are going to stop him!
Originally posted by quanchi112
Spectre still receives his power from the presence, but that doesn't make him the presence.
Originally posted by xJLxKingHe didn't have enough power to defeat Am. He also was helpess against Mxy in wf. Cain also beat the shit out of him.
Presence is all knowing and all powerful. He knows how much power the Spectre need to win. Spectre is like his right hand man. In fact, Spectre is the wrath of god, so he has enough power to bring wrath to anyone "god" demand
Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't have enough power to defeat Am. He also was helpess against Mxy in wf. Cain also beat the shit out of him.
He wasn't backed by presence against MXY
Originally posted by xJLxKingThe Spectre was amped by mages and sorcerers. The presence didn't amp him others did which destroys your theory I might add.
spear of destiny is able to defeat Spectre. His mission was to stop AM from becoming "god". He did accomplish his plan. He stopped him.He wasn't backed by presence against MXY
Originally posted by xJLxKingIn other words you are saying:
spear of destiny is able to defeat Spectre. His mission was to stop AM from becoming "god". He did accomplish his plan. He stopped him.He wasn't backed by presence against MXY
The Spectre is as strong as I want him to be and anytime he loses he wasn't backed by god.
Is Presence backing him in this fight?