deathstroke vs daken

Originally posted by KingD19
I never said Cyke hitting his head affected his power, mutants are in classes, Alpha, Beta, Gamma, etc...

Havok is an Alpha, because he has a powerful ability, and he can control it, plus he has no defects.
Scott is a beta, because he has a powerful ability, and he can't control it, that's the only reason, I never said anything to do with his power level.

What I meant by evolve is that his powers have had more time to grow, and he's had more time to understand the capabilities and limits.

And Vulcan was never shown absorbing energy before his upgrade, he was shown manipulating others energy, and using his own, yellow energy. He didn't start absorbing it until after he and Darwin and the others fused, and he became Omega.

And those classifications are ****ING STUPID. Cyclops' lack of control over his own power is not linked to the power itself but due to mental blocks he imposed himself. Emma could easily unlock those, and what would that make Cyclops then? 😆

I don't even know where he got the definitions for the levels, wasn't in any comic I've seen.

I've seen Omega and that's about it.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't even know where he got the definitions for the levels, wasn't in any comic I've seen.

I've seen Omega and that's about it.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Mutant#Classification

Go to town.

DS

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Mutant#Classification

Go to town.

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I've never actually seen where the definitions were actually stated in a comic, only on forums have I seen the designations.

What do you think would happen? He would become an Alpha, because he could control his ability, but until he can turn it on and off at will, he was be a Beta.

Just like Logan, he has small flaws(pronounced canines, more feral appearance), and he can't decide not to heal from an injury, so he's Beta.

And do you really think they said, hey, Omega's are mutants with basically infinite potential, anything under that doesn't deserve a classification.

Originally posted by KingD19
What do you think would happen? He would become an Alpha, because he could control his ability, but until he can turn it on and off at will, he was be a Beta.

Just like Logan, he has small flaws(pronounced canines, more feral appearance), and he can't decide not to heal from an injury, so he's Beta.

And do you really think they said, hey, Omega's are mutants with basically infinite potential, anything under that doesn't deserve a classification.

What comic are you getting Alpha and Beta from?

I really don't care if they thought they should categorize anything besides Omega or not, if they have that's great, tell me what comic it is in.

I'm pretty sure Apocalypse coined the system, but I can't be sure of that, nor the comic, but.

Occasionally, the genetic potential of mutants is ranked on a scale named after the Greek alphabet. This roughly-defined scale usually attempts to categorize the genetic potential of a mutant individual's powers rather than their current ability to control their own powers, though specific usage seems to vary depending on the writer. Marvel Comics has never officially defined the following terms, but characters and writers use them with relative consistency.

Yea, copy-paste from wikipedia isn't much proof.

Well, I am keeping to the classification until you or someone else proves that it's not canon and isn't used.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well, I am keeping to the classification until you or someone else proves that it's not canon and isn't used.

Great logic

What are some of Daken's feats?

Logan is an alpha not a beta.

Originally posted by Deathstroke
What are some of Daken's feats?

He's pawned Wolverine, Deadpool and the X-Men (Colossus, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Cannonball and Armor).

Pretty nice of the X-men to job to him like that.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He's pawned Wolverine, Deadpool and the X-Men (Colossus, Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Cannonball and Armor).

Don't forget about Cyber.

Originally posted by Mindset
I've never actually seen where the definitions were actually stated in a comic, only on forums have I seen the designations.

Yeah, most of them are bullshit to be honest.

But I think marvel confirmed what the classifications mean.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Daken destroys DS harder than Wolverine would.

baka

DS took out Flash, Elongated Man, Green Arrow, Zatanna, Atom, Black Canary and a GL within a minute or something. Sure he had some gadgets and has knowledge of them but they're are all vastly experienced as well. Plus most of them dwarf Daken in terms of power.

DS isn't gonna have trouble taking out a cut and dry character like Daken for a clear majority.

Originally posted by Mindset
Pretty nice of the X-men to job to him like that.

yeah was nice of them. mutants have to stick together and help each other move up in the world even if daken and logan are only psuedo mutants thx to the whole romulus wolf animal evolutionary storyline.