Originally posted by h1a8
Action Comics #782: Superman’s greatest ever feat of raw power. After flying through the sun for an increase in power, Superman moves the planet WarWorld, home of Braniac. But there’s more. Braniac has stolen the energy of Imperiex. Imperiex gained his power from the consumption of thousands of whole galaxies since the dawn of time. Hence his universal reputation as the “Devourer of Galaxies”. Superman was pushing against Warworld's energies, as in Braniac’s narrative: “Full thrust counter-measure! How is he moving my planet? The Kryptonian does not have that power!” The panel clearly shows the blue Imperiex energies firing from WarWorld’s engines. Yes, Superman was resisting the awesome Imperiex-begotten force, and pushed WarWorld through a boom tube to the beginning of time (big bang).Note that both this example and John Byrne himself confirms what we’ve suspected all along: that whatever the role that metabolized solar energy stores play in granting Superman his powers, he is obviously accessing power beyond that of the solar energies he can absorb. A few minutes in the sun is piddling compared to thousands of galaxies of power. All of Superman’s greatest feats exceed the energy he could have gleaned from 30 years of absorbed sunlight. Apparently the solar energy is either “hypermetabolized” (as per JLA scribe Grant Morrison), indicating energy generation via Unified Field/Big Bang, or the metabolized solar energy allows access to his deeper power, likely psionic in nature (as John Byrne has already confirmed).
Also, seen and explained by writers such as Stern and L. Simonson, Superman's strength increases geometrically in accordance to his proximity to the sun. This could mean he has infinite strength when in the Sun. Also the amount of solar energy he's converted determines the amount of strength his psionic potential provides.
Originally posted by h1a8
A 2lb object in mass has enough energy in it to destroy everything within a 20mi diameter (20 megatons). How much energy is the Sun capable I wonder?
Anyway, since it takes a very small mass to blow up an astronomical amount of stuff then thousands of galaxies of mass is capable of blowing up and destroying an astronomical amount of greater stuff than itself. Assuming Superman was only pushing against a small 1% of this total energy then the energy that he was pushing against is still enough to blow up the entire whole thousands of galaxies that was originally stored in Warworld [b]many times over.
Thus the feat is even greater than what I've first made it out to be. [/B]
soooooo many different kinds of energy and how they work and what they can do. An imperix probe when blow up has about the same blast raidus as a nuke. that doesn't mean each was is only as powerful as a nuke your talking about a whole different kind of energy then what your thinking. (also prove that a 2IB object has enough energy to destroy a 20 mi diameter) making up facts doesn't strengthen your arguments. OWAW was a huge feat for sups sun dipped or not but adding onto bs facts that didn't exist and speculating doesn't add on to what happened. B13 obliviously didn't know how to incorporate imperlex's power in the right way, his machines and him self were as big if not bigger then a probe but were defeated far far easier then probs. Also if Imperix prime was in range and attacked the earth directly do you think pardice island would have stopped that.
back on topic while in the center of the sun supes would be going crazy just trying to keep himself together emotionally and psychotically his would have a not so very happy thanos time to port away and come up with a plan and that would be the end for sups because what ever thanos would do teleport sups to a red sun or whatever else.
Originally posted by jasofisc
back on topic while in the center of the sun supes would be going crazy just trying to keep himself together emotionally and psychotically his would have a not so very happy thanos time to port away and come up with a plan and that would be the end for sups because what ever thanos would do teleport sups to a red sun or whatever else.
Superman's mental state and sundipping are exclusive to each other. Sundipping doesn't make him go mad nor does it decrease his intelligence...
Originally posted by jasofisc
soooooo many different kinds of energy and how they work and what they can do. An imperix probe when blow up has about the same blast raidus as a nuke. that doesn't mean each was is only as powerful as a nuke your talking about a whole different kind of energy then what your thinking. (also prove that a 2IB object has enough energy to destroy a 20 mi diameter) making up facts doesn't strengthen your arguments. OWAW was a huge feat for sups sun dipped or not but adding onto bs facts that didn't exist and speculating doesn't add on to what happened. B13 obliviously didn't know how to incorporate imperlex's power in the right way, his machines and him self were as big if not bigger then a probe but were defeated far far easier then probs. Also if Imperix prime was in range and attacked the earth directly do you think pardice island would have stopped that.back on topic while in the center of the sun supes would be going crazy just trying to keep himself together emotionally and psychotically his would have a not so very happy thanos time to port away and come up with a plan and that would be the end for sups because what ever thanos would do teleport sups to a red sun or whatever else.
I smell apple pie in that post.
Originally posted by jasofisc
soooooo many different kinds of energy and how they work and what they can do. An imperix probe when blow up has about the same blast raidus as a nuke. that doesn't mean each was is only as powerful as a nuke your talking about a whole different kind of energy then what your thinking. (also prove that a 2IB object has enough energy to destroy a 20 mi diameter) making up facts doesn't strengthen your arguments. OWAW was a huge feat for sups sun dipped or not but adding onto bs facts that didn't exist and speculating doesn't add on to what happened. B13 obliviously didn't know how to incorporate imperlex's power in the right way, his machines and him self were as big if not bigger then a probe but were defeated far far easier then probs. Also if Imperix prime was in range and attacked the earth directly do you think pardice island would have stopped that.back on topic while in the center of the sun supes would be going crazy just trying to keep himself together emotionally and psychotically his would have a not so very happy thanos time to port away and come up with a plan and that would be the end for sups because what ever thanos would do teleport sups to a red sun or whatever else.
Do you know who I am? I never make up numbers. I have proven time and time again that my numbers come from either pure calculation or stated scientific facts. I was using E=mc^2 along with the fact that a 20 megaton bomb destroys everything within a 10mi radius (20mi diameter). The latter fact is based off real scientific nuclear experiments.
And Supes is fast enough to one shot him before he acts.
Originally posted by h1a8
Action Comics #782: Superman’s greatest ever feat of raw power. After flying through the sun for an increase in power, Superman moves the planet WarWorld, home of Braniac. But there’s more. Braniac has stolen the energy of Imperiex. Imperiex gained his power from the consumption of thousands of whole galaxies since the dawn of time. Hence his universal reputation as the “Devourer of Galaxies”. Superman was pushing against Warworld's energies, as in Braniac’s narrative: “Full thrust counter-measure! How is he moving my planet? The Kryptonian does not have that power!” The panel clearly shows the blue Imperiex energies firing from WarWorld’s engines. Yes, Superman was resisting the awesome Imperiex-begotten force, and pushed WarWorld through a boom tube to the beginning of time (big bang).Note that both this example and John Byrne himself confirms what we’ve suspected all along: that whatever the role that metabolized solar energy stores play in granting Superman his powers, he is obviously accessing power beyond that of the solar energies he can absorb. A few minutes in the sun is piddling compared to thousands of galaxies of power. All of Superman’s greatest feats exceed the energy he could have gleaned from 30 years of absorbed sunlight. Apparently the solar energy is either “hypermetabolized” (as per JLA scribe Grant Morrison), indicating energy generation via Unified Field/Big Bang, or the metabolized solar energy allows access to his deeper power, likely psionic in nature (as John Byrne has already confirmed).
Also, seen and explained by writers such as Stern and L. Simonson, Superman's strength increases geometrically in accordance to his proximity to the sun. This could mean he has infinite strength when in the Sun. Also the amount of solar energy he's converted determines the amount of strength his psionic potential provides.
True true. This is often a cause for debate among Supes fans and writers, that the power he possesses is far in excess of what he could have gleaned from the sun.
He either supermetabolizes the radiation allowing him to increase the energy he absorbs by multiples of millions or it simply the way Kryptonian's unlock their link to an interdimensional power source, likely the god wave itself.
Either way he wrecks Thanos in the suns core.
I honestly feel Thanos would win 6/10 and only via BFR. I don't believe Thanos could hang in the core of the sun with Supes for an extended period of time. However, i would like to know how mad or how disoriented supes gets while in the sun. I've seen people with vary accounts of this. If he does get disoriented then I give it to thanos 9/10. If he doesn't then Thanos uses BFR for the majority. If he decides to go toe to toe with Supes in the sun he loses pretty much everytime.
Originally posted by h1a8
A 2lb object in mass has enough energy in it to destroy everything within a 20mi diameter (20 megatons).
Originally posted by Avlon
Superman's mental state and sundipping are exclusive to each other. Sundipping doesn't make him go mad nor does it decrease his intelligence...
Will you be reasonable enough to agree that sundipped Superman does not > multiple galaxies worth of power?
I stand by my original opinion of this fight:
Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos BFRs him or takes Kal's fist up the anus.Really the only two plausible scenarios.
While Thanos holds the power to ass rape Superma, I dout he has the power to takes superman with a home field adventage. Within the first few seconds Superman strength and speed would have surpassed that of Thanos, current Superman is faster then Thanos to begging with. Thanos Blowing up to sun wouldn’t do anything but hurt Thanos himself, cuss the destruction of a sun causes a supernova. with i doute Thanos can take, but a sun dip Superman can deff withstand. A sun dip supermans hit vision is power enough to destroy the earth on a fly.
Originally posted by supremthorNo bfr pretty much seals it then.
While Thanos holds the power to ass rape Superma, I dout he has the power to takes superman with a home field adventage. Within the first few seconds Superman strength and speed would have surpassed that of Thanos, current Superman is faster then Thanos to begging with. Thanos Blowing up to sun wouldn’t do anything but hurt Thanos himself, cuss the destruction of a sun causes a supernova. with i doute Thanos can take, but a sun dip Superman can deff withstand. A sun dip supermans hit vision is power enough to destroy the earth on a fly.and there is no BFR
Originally posted by supremthor
While Thanos holds the power to ass rape Superma, I dout he has the power to takes superman with a home field adventage. Within the first few seconds Superman strength and speed would have surpassed that of Thanos, current Superman is faster then Thanos to begging with. Thanos Blowing up to sun wouldn’t do anything but hurt Thanos himself, cuss the destruction of a sun causes a supernova. with i doute Thanos can take, but a sun dip Superman can deff withstand. A sun dip supermans hit vision is power enough to destroy the earth on a fly.and there is no BFR
Thanos has survived a supernova from a much larger star than our sun without so much as a burn mark on him.
Out of curiosity, why would you make this no BFR? Turns into a spite match.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos has survived a supernova from a much larger star than our sun without so much as a burn mark on him.Out of curiosity, why would you make this no BFR? Turns into a spite match.
Not really Thanos most deff has a chance, dont get me wrong. his durability allows him to take the punishment, but can his durability withstand the assault of an anger superman long enough for him to turn the sun red?