Janemba vs. Bleachverse + dbz TEAM (sword battle)

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
the guy who warped the room in on itself for one. And what makes what i said a fallacy? They say nothing can resist, nothing has. Yet we're to assume for some reason something can despite the on panel, on air proof? Also to the guys talking about him warping reality and stuff anyways....learn to read. Seriously. It's a sword fight. It says sword fight in the title. You don't say theres going to be an 1880 style duel between deadpool and the punisher then say punisher wins b/c he uses a grenade. Quit being dumb.

😐 Umm, the whole reality warping thing is another passive effect of Janemba's existence, so...yeah. 😬

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
the guy who warped the room in on itself for one. And what makes what i said a fallacy? They say nothing can resist, nothing has. Yet we're to assume for some reason something can despite the on panel, on air proof? Also to the guys talking about him warping reality and stuff anyways....learn to read. Seriously. It's a sword fight. It says sword fight in the title. You don't say theres going to be an 1880 style duel between deadpool and the punisher then say punisher wins b/c he uses a grenade. Quit being dumb.

It is a no-limits fallacy. Nothing in weak-ass(relatively) Bleach can resist, sure, but DBZ characters, and a high end one on that, who has far better feats of durability cannot? It is a No-Limits fallacy based around hyperbole.

Motherfvcker can you read? I have been consistently treating this fight as a sword fight. And Janemba's strength, speed, and durability is something no one here can fvck with. And Janemba's blade beams are sword attacks, and those were cutting through everything it was thrown at, if I remember it right it was a dimension cutting attack.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
The guy who warped the room in on itself? What are you talking about?

It is a no-limits fallacy. Nothing in weak-ass(relatively) Bleach can resist, sure, but DBZ characters, and a high end one on that, who has far better feats of durability cannot? It is a No-Limits fallacy based around hyperbole.

Motherfvcker can you read? I have been consistently treating this fight as a sword fight. And Janemba's strength, speed, and durability is something no one here can fvck with. And Janemba's blade beams are sword attacks, and those were cutting through everything it was thrown at, if I remember it right it was a dimension cutting attack.

Just a uh...quick thing. If Janemba can use his sword beams, because they are attacks from his sword...then doesn't that mean that every Bleach character has full access to all of their abilities, since their swords are where their powers come from?

I don't think that's ever been in question. What is your rebuttal, sir?

It occurs to me that Quincy are techincally banned from this fight, then. >.> They don't have swords. Just chainsaws. 😛

Originally posted by XanatosForever
It occurs to me that Quincy are techincally banned from this fight, then. >.> They don't have swords. Just chainsaws. 😛

It's true. Quincy don't use swords. We are gangster like that. Which is why the end result of this fight doesn't really bother me.

So if they get to use powers...couldn't they use Tosen's Bankai to stop janemba from moving....

and then all of the dragonball z level strength guys fly at him and stab him all over?

Tosen's Bankai doesn't stop movement, it just invokes blindness and deafness. Janemba would be able to deal with that no problem.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Tosen's Bankai doesn't stop movement, it just invokes blindness and deafness. Janemba would be able to deal with that no problem.

Yeah never mind, that was a shit idea anyways, since Tosen would be the only immune person.

But there is still his shikai, which knocks out anybody after he "shoots" the sound at them.

Just becase that worked on a weakling (at that time in the story) like Uryu, doesn't mean it would affect someone more powerful. It's probably why he didn't bother using it against Kenpachi.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Saying something can cut through dimensional barriers is dumb. Just because he did it in dbz doesn't mean that someone with the same power level could do it in bleach. different universes different rules. And how can you know people in bleach are weak? They're spirits.....not flesh and blood. And like i've said a thousand times, they're swords are made for killing demons.....they're super powerful spiritual beings who sole purpose is killing evil spirits. There's no way of knowing that they cannot defeat Janemba. Comparing the fact that he beat a bunch of flesh and blood normal guys in dbz and a couple run of the mills spirits, is a lot different than him beating the bleach universe. They're shinigami. that means death god. They're not your average spirit. If the fight takes place in dbz janemba wins, if it were to take place in bleach bleach would win. If it takes place in neutral universe you have to take both groups as their full intended power. Bleach universe is intended to beat demons. janemba is a demon. Janemba lost b/c he got purified. How can you think that a spirit Death God cannot purify someone yet some untrained average joe could do it in dbz? and i say untrained as in they've not been training hundreds of years at beating evil spirits. Also all the mother ****ers are soooo cool. They show you're great debate skills.

So why could it not work in Bleach? Other than the fact you would not want it to? It was cutting dimensional barriers in DBZ, but cannot do so in Bleach? Shoddy logic and wishful thinking.

How do I know they are weak? Let's see, they have not proven to be nearly as powerful, strong, fast, or durable. Being "spirits" means little to nothing at all.

Their swords kill demons, sure, weak demons. By feats, the most destructive Hollow/Arrancar, Ulquiorra, has a feat that is surpassed by one from Nappa during the Saiyan saga. Surpassed by alot, and Nappa did it effortlessly, compared to Ulquiorra who can barely control it. Yet we assume these guys can defeat Janemba?

Normal guys? Nappa destroyed a large city with a gesture. KRILLIN is stronger than Nappa now. And all of these "normal guys" have superior strength, speed, and durability to anyone in Bleach.

Sure, they are Death Gods. But guess what!? Death God is a title which has absolutely no bearing on an actual fight! dur

Bleach universe is intended to beat weak demons. Janemba is not a weak demon. Gogeta is an untrained average Joe now? A fusion between two of the most powerful warriors in the universe? Are you fvcking with me? The shit Goku deals with would destroy all of Bleachverse in its entirety.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
This is among the most laughable posts I have seen in a while, no really, you're at least Leonhart-lite in terms of pure fanboyism. Thanks for the laugh.

So why could it not work in Bleach? Other than the fact you would not want it to? It was cutting dimensional barriers in DBZ, but cannot do so in Bleach? Shoddy logic and wishful thinking.

How do I know they are weak? Let's see, they have not proven to be nearly as powerful, strong, fast, or durable. Being "spirits" means little to nothing at all.

Their swords kill demons, sure, weak demons. By feats, the most destructive Hollow/Arrancar, Ulquiorra, has a feat that is surpassed by one from Nappa during the Saiyan saga. Surpassed by alot, and Nappa did it effortlessly, compared to Ulquiorra who can barely control it. Yet we assume these guys can defeat Janemba?

Normal guys? Nappa destroyed a large city with a gesture. KRILLIN is stronger than Nappa now. And all of these "normal guys" have superior strength, speed, and durability to anyone in Bleach.

Sure, they are Death Gods. But guess what!? Death God is a title which has absolutely no bearing on an actual fight! dur

Bleach universe is intended to beat weak demons. Janemba is not a weak demon. Gogeta is an untrained average Joe now? A fusion between two of the most powerful warriors in the universe? Are you fvcking with me? The shit Goku deals with would destroy all of Bleachverse in its entirety.

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
you didn't really read my post did you? You didn't overcome any argument i made. You really are slow. Go back, read my post, go ask someone to explain it to you, then come back and try responding to what I said. And i'm def. not a bleach fanboy. I'm just not an idiot who ignores logic like you seem to be.

I addressed ALL of your points, go back and read it jack.

first of all janemba's existence warps reality so its automatically in this fight second of all janemba's sprit pressure is way stronger than anyone in bleach so they wont be able to cut him third of all none of the dbz dcharacters with swords caneven come close to beating him and they are all planet busters. JANEMBA WINS FLAWLESS VICTORY

Originally posted by XanatosForever
It's probably why he didn't bother using it against Kenpachi.

You can't win an argument on probably.

Yeah, that's a good point...but then...if all it would've taken to bring down Kenpachi was his shikai, why did Tosen instead go straight to Bankai?

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Yeah, that's a good point...but then...if all it would've taken to bring down Kenpachi was his shikai, why did Tosen instead go straight to Bankai?

Probably pissed off. Wanted to pwn him with ultimate power?

Originally posted by Quincy
You can't win an argument on probably.

I owned myself mhmm

ANYWAYS. Since sword attacks are allowed in the fight, Aizen could easily just hypnotize Janemba right? mhmm

Depends. We're still unaware of the exact stipulations of Aizen's shikai (which I assume that is), and what is needed to break it. If it's just a matter of greater energy, then Janemba simply has to exist to cancel it out.

Although, when I really think about it, considering he already passively warps reality, I'm not sure if that would be affected by it in the same way that the other shinigami are.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Depends. We're still unaware of the exact stipulations of Aizen's shikai (which I assume that is), and what is needed to break it. If it's just a matter of greater energy, then Janemba simply has to exist to cancel it out.

Although, when I really think about it, considering he already passively warps reality, I'm not sure if that would be affected by it in the same way that the other shinigami are.

He passively warps reality? As in that doesn't count as a separate technique than just pure sword fighting?