Originally posted by LDHZenkai
At 1k yards it can only penetrate 4 inches of wood. Effective distance was 600 yards. Oh about the Enfield Rifle.
But yea the spear is only effective at around 50 yards.
Which would still be enough to pretty much lay waste to the spartans from longe range.
Why is the spear range important, seen as how the entire Phalanx is based on using spear and shield, so throwing away their spear isn't exactly a well planned tactic since it would make the Phalanx more ore less ineffective.
Originally posted by frommd
Even if they are lucky enough to get in kill shots on Batman and Spiderman, they have no shot against Scott. His range attacks are too much for them. I have my doubts about Batman even, but they at least have a chance of outnumbering him and getting in a lucky shot.
Batman is human. He has no superpowers. There's THREE HUNDRED of them. hmmm....
Originally posted by Utrigita
Which would still be enough to pretty much lay waste to the spartans from longe range.Why is the spear range important, seen as how the entire Phalanx is based on using spear and shield, so throwing away their spear isn't exactly a well planned tactic since it would make the Phalanx more ore less ineffective.
Originally posted by jalek moye
but did you actually think it was possible to even make it past lizard let alone spidey or wolverine
Of course! They clear it. Galactus might be sorta hard, but they win 6/10.
Nah, but they could beat Spiderman if they get lucky; there's 300 of them so maybe one would hit him while he's hitting another ... and, if they could lure him into the center of the formation, Spiderman wouldn't be able to prevent himself from being surrounded. But they probably won't clear him.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Of course! They clear it. Galactus might be sorta hard, but they win 6/10.Nah, but they could beat Spiderman if they get lucky; there's 300 of them so maybe one would hit him while he's hitting another ... and, if they could lure him into the center of the formation, Spiderman wouldn't be able to prevent himself from being surrounded. But they probably won't clear him.
Originally posted by jalek moye
Actually even if hes sourinded he can jump several stories high. They can't get him in a spot he can't get out of. Why did you put thing and higher even on the list?
When people say "Superman runs the gauntlet" why do they put Wolverine on the list?
And, can you come up with a senario of how Spartans can beat Thing and higher? I'm interested to see 🙂
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
When people say "Superman runs the gauntlet" why do they put Wolverine on the list?And, can you come up with a senario of how Spartans can beat Thing and higher? I'm interested to see 🙂
And no i can't even think of a way for them to logically beat wolverine without better equipment then what they are armed with
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
I was showing that at range it they would die. That's why it matters. If they charged in running they could kill the redcoats b/c there's more of them and they are far above and beyond the redcoats in close fighting skill.
If the spartans charged in running they would break the Phalanx formation and open themselves when more up to attack from the Redcoats, and the Red Coats can atleast fire and reload and fire again before the Spartans hit them, Sure they are better in close combat but the question is how many spartans that will be breathing when they get within melee range.
Originally posted by Utrigita
If the spartans charged in running they would break the Phalanx formation and open themselves when more up to attack from the Redcoats, and the Red Coats can atleast fire and reload and fire again before the Spartans hit them, Sure they are better in close combat but the question is how many spartans that will be breathing when they get within melee range.
Redcoats would get to fire at most 5 times. That would mean that there would still be >100 spartans. And, a musket isn't taking down 300 before they get close. Otherwise, casualty rates in the 18th century would be way too high...
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Redcoats would get to fire at most 5 times. That would mean that there would still be >100 spartans. And, a musket isn't taking down 300 before they get close. Otherwise, casualty rates in the 18th century would be way too high...
Not from my point of view, the Spartans is the way I'm understanding it marching towards the Red Coats in a Phalanx formation, giving the Red Coats plenty of time to aim and fire atleast 2 times into the ranks of the advancing Phalanx and imo based on that a Phalanx doesn't run I would say more then 2. That as previously mentioned depends highly on what Musket you are handing the Red Coats. Are you handing them the Pattern 1853 Enfield the Spartans will be under fire from 2000 yards but will probably first begin to drop for real when they enter 1000 yards. But still plenty of range to gun them down.
There's a reason that people don't fight wars with swords and shields anymore. Guns are more effective at killing people. If the Spartans started marching toward the Redcoats, they'd be gunned down for the most part before reaching them.
The Spartans didn't charge in a phalanx that I ever saw. Which is the only way I could see them having enough numbers to win once they reached them.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Not from my point of view, the Spartans is the way I'm understanding it marching towards the Red Coats in a Phalanx formation, giving the Red Coats plenty of time to aim and fire atleast 2 times into the ranks of the advancing Phalanx and imo based on that a Phalanx doesn't run I would say more then 2. That as previously mentioned depends highly on what Musket you are handing the Red Coats. Are you handing them the Pattern 1853 Enfield the Spartans will be under fire from 2000 yards but will probably first begin to drop for real when they enter 1000 yards. But still plenty of range to gun them down.
these are 18th century redcoats w/brown brass (or whatever you call it) muskets
and really, the spartans aren't stupid enough to move in a phalanx vs. muskets (assuming they know about them, which they do in this thread based on the forum rules)