Ultron vs Superman

Superman dents him up so bad that all of his insides are destroyed, either that or he punches holes through him.

Originally posted by h1a8
IMO Superman is strong enough punch holes in Ultron. If not then we certainly can't except Hulk doing it can we?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
'Cause his claws were never damaged 😬

Secondary adamantium is more durable than you think. And you underestimate Classic Wonderman, really.

Supes.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
even if that true that dont mean squat
wolverine wuz also around before there was 2nd adamantium but his claws were never retconed were they

if Wonderman can crush Ultrons skull with his hands then Hulk woud have punch huge hole thru the same Ultron if it was 2nd adamantium

but he only made a SMALL crack. becuz it was teh real Ultron

WTF!!!!!!

Ok let me explain this one more time. In 1984 when Ultron was damaged there was no such thing as secondary Adamantium. He was real Adamantium. Years later the writers....yes the writers can do what they want said that the Adamantium the was damaged by Hulk was secondary adamantium. Understand..... 🙁

This is not that hard to follow.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
WTF!!!!!!

Ok let me explain this one more time. In 1984 when Ultron was damaged there was no such thing as secondary Adamantium. He was real Adamantium. Years later the writers....yes the writers can do what they want said that the Adamantium the was damaged by Hulk was secondary adamantium. Understand..... 🙁

This is not that hard to follow.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
but hulk actually DID do it.... lulz?

Originally posted by darthgoober
When did they recton it into secondary adamantium exactly?

Actually I think I made a mistake. I think Secret Wars Ultron was always Secondary Adamantium. I remember reading about secondary adamantium in like 1979.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Actually I think I made a mistake. I think Secret Wars Ultron was always Secondary Adamantium. I remember reading about secondary adamantium in like 1979.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
'Cause his claws were never damaged 😬

Secondary adamantium is more durable than you think. And you underestimate Classic Wonderman, really.

Not true! S'ym snapped them off and used them as toothpicks after killing wolverine during inferno.

never retconned, but generally explained away as "well, physical laws are different in limbo."

Originally posted by darthgoober
There was no mention during Secret Wars of Ultron being secondary adamantium that I know of. He was portrayed as being pretty uber in that arc...

the "retcon" occurred after secret wars. per marvel (at some vague point, I admit) true adamantium was physically indestructible. any and all adamantium that had been physically damaged beforehand was now "secondary adamantium" by default.

so the comics won't say that, it was a decision handed down by marvel editorial.

Originally posted by darthgoober
There was no mention during Secret Wars of Ultron being secondary adamantium that I know of. He was portrayed as being pretty uber in that arc...

Doom told Molecule Man that only he and Galactus could stop Ultron

Galactus just sucked the energy out of him

Which gives me an idea - could Superman do the same thing? After all, he does have some sort of energy - absorbing powers

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
WTF!!!!!!

Ok let me explain this one more time. In 1984 when Ultron was damaged there was no such thing as secondary Adamantium. He was real Adamantium. Years later the writers....yes the writers can do what they want said that the Adamantium the was damaged by Hulk was secondary adamantium. Understand..... 🙁

This is not that hard to follow.

if this wuz 2nd adamantium then Hulk wouldve destroy Ultron completly

Wonderman crush 2nd adamantium with his bear hands
then your saying that what Hulk cracked (sligtly) wuz also 2nd adamantium

so basicly your saying that Wonderman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hulk
lol

Originally posted by Space M ummy
any and all adamantium that had been physically damaged beforehand was now "secondary adamantium" by default.

Originally posted by darthgoober
There was no mention during Secret Wars of Ultron being secondary adamantium that I know of. He was portrayed as being pretty uber in that arc...

thats why Hulk only made small crack in Ultrons armor instead of destroyin it completly
crack wuz only small enuf to let that wasp chick fly inside

Originally posted by Space M ummy
the "retcon" occurred after secret wars. per marvel (at some vague point, I admit) true adamantium was physically indestructible. any and all adamantium that had been physically damaged beforehand was now "secondary adamantium" by default.

so the comics won't say that, it was a decision handed down by marvel editorial.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Saying that something is indestructible doesn't retroactively recton every instance of it being destroyed. Otherwise Surfer's board would have been similarly rectonned several times and we'd still consider his board completely indestructible

just like wolvies claws, never retconed to 2nd adamantium

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
ok lemme explain this one more time : thats bullshit they never said anything about the ultron that HULK damage

if this wuz 2nd adamantium then Hulk wouldve destroy Ultron completly

Wonderman crush 2nd adamantium with his bear hands
then your saying that what Hulk cracked (sligtly) wuz also 2nd adamantium

so basicly your saying that Wonderman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hulk
lol

Dude re-read how marvel changed history. Amd crushing something is different than punching it anyway 😆

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Amd crushing something is different than punching it anyway 😆

superman can still heat vision ultron through it's optics.