Well spoken right to the point, excellent.
A waste of talent him being in the European powerless coffee shop.
Another excellent speech. What does he say in Latin at the end.?
YouTube video
It certainly taken off...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/7965909.stm
I would like to see more of this man...whatever position he holds in office. It seems he's getting proper attention.
"Quite jolly good for the lad"
(that's WD in his poor attempt to sound English)
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
The British were the ones responsible in messing up our country in the first place, invading our territorial lands and infesting us with their 'superior white genes' and 'McDonalds syndrome'I say burn these Illuminati ****ers!
you're either Indian or just a really scary kinda guy..,aren't you?
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Originally posted by WhoopeeDee
It certainly taken off...http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/the_daily_politics/7965909.stm
I would like to see more of this man...whatever position he holds in office. It seems he's getting proper attention.
"Quite jolly good for the lad"
(that's WD in his poor attempt to sound English)
Yup, it's doing the rounds around the net. But still, he's only a British Politician in the literal sense, in that he is a. British and b. involved in politics, which is not the thing one normally means when using the term (i.e. an MP).
An MP would never get a speech like that out without it being drowned by jeering/cheering, because the Commons is a bit like that.
Anyway, point is the man is almost entirely inconsequential, poltically, and I wouldn't take him as a typical political image for this country. Cinservatrive MEPs seem mostly there to just complain about everything anyway. It's easy to get on the 'mock the Prime Minister' bandwagon, and heaven knows I think Brown is a useless PM, but I would rather save praise for someone making achievements rather than just good mocking oratory. Hell, I don't need to leave these forums if I want that; mockers are ten a penny and the law of probability says at least some of them have to be vaguely good at it.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
The European Parliament kis rather more well known for yapping on rather than doing anything.
If only that were the case. Unfortunately so much power has been handed over to the EU in terms of making laws of the highest legal authority (meaning EU made law outstrips that of Scot's Law or other UK law) that some politician from Eastern Europe has, in some cases, more power to say what becomes law in the UK than an UK parliment MP.
But i know what you're getting at. The things like the EU debating how much of an angle the bend in a banana should be for it to be a class 1 or class 2. Prosecuting grocers for selling things in pounds and ounces instead of grams and kilograms. That kind of stupid time and money wasting nonsense should be done away with.
Here's some more of Daniel Hannan.
Originally posted by jaden101
If only that were the case. Unfortunately so much power has been handed over to the EU in terms of making laws of the highest legal authority (meaning EU made law outstrips that of Scot's Law or other UK law) that some politician from Eastern Europe has, in some cases, more power to say what becomes law in the UK than an UK parliment MP.
That kind of thing is massively exaggerated. Much more talking than action ever comes out of Europe, and when something decisive is done you will often find that MEPs had nothing to do with it.
Originally posted by UshgarakAn MP would never get a speech like that out without it being drowned by jeering/cheering, because the Commons is a bit like that.
Oh, I gotta pretty good idea of what you're saying.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Anyway, point is the man is almost entirely inconsequential, poltically, and I wouldn't take him as a typical political image for this country. Cinservatrive MEPs seem mostly there to just complain about everything anyway. It's easy to get on the 'mock the Prime Minister' bandwagon, and heaven knows I think Brown is a useless PM, but I would rather save praise for someone making achievements rather than just good mocking oratory. Hell, I don't need to leave these forums if I want that; mockers are ten a penny and the law of probability says at least some of them have to be vaguely good at it.
What you see as complain and mockery is what I consider (mind you I'm speaking as a foreigner to your land) as "important criticism" in politics. The opposition must always be open. That is why you never saw me opposing the opinions or comments of Bush bashers for the past years (which to make it clear to some of you reading this post...I vote Independent or neutral...except for 04 elections)
Wow, anyone that writes this guy off as inconsequential marks themselves as an idiot. You might not agree with him, but he has a point that is based in a populist sentiment in the UK, just as it is in the US. It's sort of like saying that anyone that believes in the Palestinian cause is inconsequential because they're in the minority. If you want to say Stupid, Yes. Inconsequential? Let's wait until the next election.
Originally posted by tsscls
Wow, anyone that writes this guy off as inconsequential marks themselves as an idiot. You might not agree with him, but he has a point that is based in a populist sentiment in the UK, just as it is in the US. It's sort of like saying that anyone that believes in the Palestinian cause is inconsequential because they're in the minority. If you want to say Stupid, Yes. Inconsequentail? Let's wait until the next election.
The reverse opinion seems far more valid. Ushagark made the point that he's not very well known and that happens to be one of the most important aspects of gaining power.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The reverse opinion seems far more valid. Ushagark made the point that he's not very well known and that happens to be one of the most important aspects of gaining power.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with Ush. I'm just saying that in my country that Newt Gingrich and Nancy Pelosi were disregarded in the years before they became speakers of the house, (I know this is the UK, just making a comparison) and it's stupid to write him off as a loon.
Saying he's inconsequential isn't writing him off as a loon though. It just means that he wont make the impact on British politics that you think he will simply because he's not involved in British politics to any great extent because of his position in the European parliment. So his effect on the next election in the UK will be non existent because he wont be running in it and his effect in the European parliment will be non existent because noone there cares if he criticises Gordon Brown over domestic policy.