Originally posted by quanchi112
I thought he didn't even fight the real Surtur. Was Bor really that impressive?
And Bor was only impressive if you take a look at what was said of and about him. He's roughly on par with Odin, according to Thor 600. But has he destroyed galaxies, etc? No. But, that doesn't mean a whole lot. I mean, look at Desak. Dude took out thousands upon thousands of gods, some above Odin's level. Slaughtered entire pantheons. Had King Thor dead to rights twice. He didn't do any major collateral damage either, yet we know he kicks some serious ass.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Who is the most powerful being Odin has taken on?
Originally posted by EnyalusWeren't they still shadows of their real selves in the netherealm?
He did fight the real Surtur. In the Netherrealm. And Surtur was more powerful than Odin there, because he was intelligent enough to hide away some of his true essence before being killed initially. So, yep.And Bor was only impressive if you take a look at what was said of and about him. He's roughly on par with Odin, according to Thor 600. But has he destroyed galaxies, etc? No. But, that doesn't mean a whole lot. I mean, look at Desak. Dude took out thousands upon thousands of gods, some above Odin's level. Slaughtered entire pantheons. Had King Thor dead to rights twice. He didn't do any major collateral damage either, yet we know he kicks some serious ass.
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Thor couldn't take on an ddefeat Odin so I think that he isn't on par or anywhere near Odin level.
Desak proved himself by kicking ass an dtaking names.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Weren't they still shadows of their real selves in the netherealm?
There was no indication that their powers were lessened. Surtur was still roughly Odin's equal, and Thor (who has the Odinforce as evidenced by several passages in several issues of v3) beat him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor couldn't take on an ddefeat Odin so I think that he isn't on par or anywhere near Odin level.
I don't really agree there. When Thor was given the Odinforce by Odin while he was fighting Seth and Thor had to fight Surtur (back in v1), he did just as well as Odin would do. Plus he's beaten Surtur in v3. Plus he's beaten Ymir and Surtur at the same time with a Godblast. Plus when he had the Odinforce he's beaten Desak (something the other Asgardians thought that Odin wouldn't have been able to do), plus with the Odinforce he was able to beat down Perrikus, said to be Odin's equal (he had defeated Odin before, actually...)
I mean, Thor w/ Odinforce is basically Odin-level power with Mjolnir backing it, the greatest weapon of the Norse gods. So IMO Thor could take Odin for the majority, yes.
Originally posted by Enyalus
He did fight the real Surtur. In the Netherrealm. And Surtur was more powerful than Odin there, because he was intelligent enough to hide away some of his true essence before being killed initially. So, yep.
I was referring to when Thor had the odinforce temporarily around their war with Seth. Where he defeated Surtur.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I was referring to when Thor had the odinforce temporarily around their war with Seth. Where he defeated Surtur.
Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't really agree there. When Thor was given the Odinforce by Odin while he was fighting Seth and Thor had to fight Surtur (back in v1), he did just as well as Odin would do.
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Originally posted by EnyalusI could have sworn there was.There was no indication that their powers were lessened. Surtur was still roughly Odin's equal, and Thor (who has the Odinforce as evidenced by several passages in several issues of v3) beat him.
I don't really agree there. When Thor was given the Odinforce by Odin while he was fighting Seth and Thor had to fight Surtur (back in v1), he did just as well as Odin would do. Plus he's beaten Surtur in v3. Plus he's beaten Ymir and Surtur at the same time with a Godblast. Plus when he had the Odinforce he's beaten Desak (something the other Asgardians thought that Odin wouldn't have been able to do), plus with the Odinforce he was able to beat down Perrikus, said to be Odin's equal (he had defeated Odin before, actually...)
I mean, Thor w/ Odinforce is basically Odin-level power with Mjolnir backing it, the greatest weapon of the Norse gods. So IMO Thor could take Odin for the majority, yes. [/B]
King Thor and Odin are both above current Thor. Skrull and Rulk back me up.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Just Odinforce. No runes for Thor right now.
Thx. To be honest, this could be anybody's match. For one, during Thor's reign of Asgard, he took out a bunch of heroes such as Captain America, Hulk, Thing, and Iron Man. After his battle with them, Thor looked pretty worned out. I'm not sure whether or not Thor was not ready when he fought the heroes, or he was inexperience with the new OdinForce power. But Tyrant on the other hand took out a league of heralds with ease. I still give this to Tyrant at about 7/10. If anybody can give me other current Thor feats, then I might reconsider.
Originally posted by PowerCosmic
Thx. To be honest, this could be anybody's match. For one, during Thor's reign of Asgard, he took out a bunch of heroes such as Captain America, Hulk, Thing, and Iron Man. After his battle with them, Thor looked pretty worned out.
That's because he fought, and killed them, without the Odinforce backing him up. It was nullified by the Council Elite of Pantheons of Earth, in the form of a necklace slipped on him by Dr. Strange...
Originally posted by Enyalus
That's because he fought, and killed them, without the Odinforce backing him up. It was nullified by the Council Elite of Pantheons of Earth, in the form of a necklace slipped on him by Dr. Strange...
Oh I did not know that. Thank again Enyalus. This happened right before Thing and Hulk fought Thor I presumed.
Originally posted by PowerCosmic
Oh I did not know that. Thank again Enyalus. This happened right before Thing and Hulk fought Thor I presumed.
Yup. Dr. Strange and Wolverine are in the room, IIRC, when its slipped on. Right after he fights both Thing and Hulk "for hours" (losing an arm and an eye in the process), but kills them both without the Odinpower. Does the same to Wolverine and Cap (even blasting through his shield.)
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yup. Dr. Strange and Wolverine are in the room, IIRC, when its slipped on. Right after he fights both Thing and Hulk "for hours" (losing an arm and an eye in the process), but kills them both without the Odinpower. Does the same to Wolverine and Cap (even blasting through his shield.)
I not sure about the arm part but logan did wound Thor in his left arm and Thor couldn't move it it seemed he kind of hide it in his cape even at the end of the comic you can tell if u lost his arm our just couldn't move it. Either he did kill hulk and Thing with one arm and that was bad@$$
Current Thor is as powerful as he was when he was King Thor.
If reviving all the Gods of Asgard after he had on shoted the Destroyer/Balder isn't a proof then what is?
Not to mention that he created Asgard out of thin air effortlessly and he containd a blast that would have killed every lkiving creature on earth in Secret Invasion.
Surtur and Bor are a few more examples. But thing is that his current series lack action