Re: Re: Battle in a warehouse
Originally posted by RobtardAgree with everything except Rambo as THE knife fighter. Bourne owns that spot seeing what he did with a pen in Bourne Identity. Give him a knife and imagine that........
Fighting Speed: Bourne
Fighting Skill: Bourne
Dirty Tactics: McClane
Reach: Mills
Pain/Damage sponge: Bond
Knife: Rambo
Sword: Batman
Pistol: Mills, Bond, Bourne & Swagger all about equal, imo.
Stealth: Batman
Hero's Luck: McClaneOne thing of note, just because a guy is #1 in any given category, doesn't mean the rest are all that far behind. E.G, Bourne's H2H isn't epic levels above Mills.
Re: Re: Re: Battle in a warehouse
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Agree with everything except Rambo as THE knife fighter. Bourne owns that spot seeing what he did with a pen in Bourne Identity. Give him a knife and imagine that........
And a roll of newspaper (vs a knife) in Supremacy...
... And a book and a towel (vs a razor) in Ultimatum. 😛
He's nowhere near as proficient as these guys are in H2H. He doesn't have any machinery, automobiles, ect. to rely on. Only one I can see him matching with is Rambo.
In LFODH he was getting his ass kicked by the asian chick(Batman, Bourne, Bond, and Mills would slaughter her). He's not stealthy, and he'd only be drawing attention to himself with his wit and jokes.
I see Bourne winning despite my hate for him. Like RJ said if you see a guy kicking ass in a bat suit you tend to focus on him, and he's not going against a bunch of druggy mobsters here he's going against one of the best snipers in the world and a guy who wipe out a group of people armed ak's with a bow. He's probably going down 1st or 2nd, provided he may be able to get someone through stealth, like McClain.
That said if McClain doesn't go down first, he'll probably go 2nd, he's got decent intelligence, decent fighting skills, and he's a good shot, but he's not one for the slow approach. He's lucky but in a warehouse like this I say his luck runs out, swagger or someone else is going to put a bullet in his head.
Rambo I'd say would be next to bite the dust, his fighting styles don't do very well here and his only advantage in h2h would be his ridiculous amount of strength. Of course his shooting isn't to be underestimated as he wiped out a group of people in less than a second. If he can get to Swagger he can take him out easy enough I think, but otherwise Swagger or someone else will take him out from a distance.
On the note of Swagger, with a person sniping in the distance, which I'm guessing he would think he goes next Bourne or Bond take him out with their own sniper.
Next I think to go would be Mills, he'd likely get in close with Bond and if the two managed to get up close in H2H I'd give it to Mills, but Bond would take it for awhile, at least long enough for Bourne to get in and kill one or both of them from the distance. Thus Bourne would win.
Though this is all really how you see the fight going and really anyone could win depending how you put the scenario. Personally I see Bourne winning.
And I apologize for this lengthy post 🙂
Originally posted by Darth Martinhaermm Yeah McClane sucks ass h2h haermm
He's nowhere near as proficient as these guys are in H2H. He doesn't have any machinery, automobiles, ect. to rely on. Only one I can see him matching with is Rambo.In LFODH he was getting his ass kicked by the asian chick(Batman, Bourne, Bond, and Mills would slaughter her). He's not stealthy, and he'd only be drawing attention to himself with his wit and jokes.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
He's nowhere near as proficient as these guys are in H2H. He doesn't have any machinery, automobiles, ect. to rely on. Only one I can see him matching with is Rambo.In LFODH he was getting his ass kicked by the asian chick(Batman, Bourne, Bond, and Mills would slaughter her). He's not stealthy, and he'd only be drawing attention to himself with his wit and jokes.
You're greatly underestimating his pluses, dirty tactics and a ridiculous level of luck is definitely enough to get a hero by, while he will not likely win this, he isn't going down first.
Those witty jokes work in his favour, it's like a special ability. Also of note, this is a warehouse, there's probably a forklift around, so it's safe to say he drives it up one of the others asses while it's in a fiery blaze.
Did you watch Diehard, he used stealth-tactics throughtout the movie; this warehouse probably also has some sort of HVAC system, another plus for McClane. Shit, considering all the above, he'd probably make it to the final three.
Originally posted by Robtard
Those witty jokes work in his favour, it's like a special ability.
If he tries to use a "witty joke", the only reaction he would get is a bullet in the head.
Originally posted by Robtard
Also of note, this is a warehouse, there's probably a forklift around, so it's safe to say he drives it up one of the others asses while it's in a fiery blaze.
Depends if OP allows a forklift. I was under the impression they were only allowed weapons scattered around the place. Even if there was a forklift, he would have to drive around looking for people to run over. And amongst these elite, anyone would hear him coming.
Originally posted by Robtard
You obviously didn't pay attention in Diehard, he used stealth-tactics throughtout the movie
lol. Batman is the master of stealth. He'd probably spot McClaine immediately and laugh at how noob he is trying to sneak around.
Also the asian chick in LFODH isn't a ninja 😉
Originally posted by Placidity
If he tries to use a "witty joke", the only reaction he would get is a bullet in the head.Depends if OP allows a forklift. I was under the impression they were only allowed weapons scattered around the place. Even if there was a forklift, he would have to drive around looking for people to run over. And amongst these elite, anyone would hear him coming.
lol. Batman is the master of stealth. He'd probably spot McClaine immediately and laugh at how noob he is trying to sneak around.
Also the asian chick in LFODH isn't a ninja 😉
See Sadako's response.
It's a warehouse, considering Batman's advantage is stealth here, it means the environment factors in, for all of them. Forklifts, boxes, HVAC system to hide and ambush from, etc.
Yes, but this isn't just Batman Vs. McClane. Batman may be busy dodging Bourne who's trying to shove the rolled up Playboy magazine he found in the bathroom up his Bat-ass.
She was like a ninja, But let's not get into that.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthAnd how many kills were executed while in h2h combat? Not after the fact, you know, when a girl kicks the shit outta him, or when he is ***** kicked off an airplane by a man who is not one tenth the fighter Riggs is? I am talking about while throwing hands with an opponent, not behind the wheel of an SUV.
Yet he more kills organised and dangerous badguys than Riggs and his Partner put together. Go figure.Like the forklift motiff, Robtard.
Those propane cannisters on those gas trucks'd go up a treat.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how many kills were executed while in h2h combat? Not after the fact, you know, when a girl kicks the shit outta him, or when he is ***** kicked off an airplane by a man who is not one tenth the fighter Riggs is? I am talking about while throwing hands with an opponent, not behind the wheel of an SUV.
You're missing the trees for the forest, this is a warehouse with weapons strewn about and many non-weapons to be turned into weapons, a McClane speciality, that, It' not like they're all going to run into the middle and have a H2H free-for-all.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And how many kills were executed while in h2h combat? Not after the fact, you know, when a girl kicks the shit outta him, or when he is ***** kicked off an airplane by a man who is not one tenth the fighter Riggs is? I am talking about while throwing hands with an opponent, not behind the wheel of an SUV.
How many did Riggs kill without a gun..? Less than Mcclane, I think.
You mention the SUV AGAIN like Riggs never rellied on Murtargh and the odd shipping container to assist his kills. 🙄
Originally posted by RobtardSwords, knives and handguns......Seeing as we never see McClane with a knife or sword, and seeing as how Riggs is an accomplished martial artist who HAS killed with a knife, and seeing how Riggs is a far better shot than McClane, yeah, McClane wouldnt last long here. Not near as long as Riggs.
You're missing the trees for the forest, this is a warehouse with weapons strewn about and many non-weapons to be turned into weapons, a McClane speciality, that, It' not like they're all going to run into the middle and have a H2H free-for-all.
But it's irrevelant, why are we even talking about Riggs? He isnt a combatant here.
Originally posted by Sadako of GirthWhat I just said.
How many did Riggs kill without a gun..? Less than Mcclane, I think.You mention the SUV AGAIN like Riggs never rellied on Murtargh and the odd shipping container to assist his kills. 🙄
BTW: Riggs should be here. So should Plissken, El Mariachi, and several others.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Swords, knives and handguns......Seeing as we never see McClane with a knife or sword, and seeing as how Riggs is an accomplished martial artist who HAS killed with a knife, and seeing how Riggs is a far better shot than McClane, yeah, McClane wouldnt last long here. Not near as long as Riggs.But it's irrevelant, why are we even talking about Riggs? He isnt a combatant here.
Why not? You make enough references to the McClane/Riggs debate with all the SUV references etc.
You just said his name three times.
And he killed with a knife...? Wow.
I bet McClane couldnt do that.... 🙄...no instead he stabs people in the eye with icicles and shit. Cause thats how he rolls.