Thanos/SMP vs Odin/Darkseid

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi5 pages
Originally posted by Allankles
An example of what its usage? Boss Darkside used in on Miracle to try and get him to accept Anti-life, basically it is a fate worse than death, infinite despair.

Allan you crack me up.... DS could solo SMP and Thanos haha. Your wanking of DS rivals that of Trick buddy. Now, he asked for an example of the OS royally messing someone up on Thanos or SMP level. Prime would out run it as normal supes did. Imo he could tank it as well if needed. Thanos has his shields or could just teleport away. So, again Allan name me the people that are on THanos and Primes levels that he's OS and beaten both? DId you say DS is above the Guardians... based on what?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Allan you crack me up.... DS could solo SMP and Thanos haha. Your wanking of DS rivals that of Trick buddy. Now, he asked for an example of the OS royally messing someone up on Thanos or SMP level. Prime would out run it as normal supes did. Imo he could tank it as well if needed. Thanos has his shields or could just teleport away. So, again Allan name me the people that are on THanos and Primes levels that he's OS and beaten both? DId you say DS is above the Guardians... based on what?

So he's supposed to tank having realities altered? Pray tell what abilities he possesses to accomplish this?

I don't know what Thanos shields can do against reality bending power, that's neither here nor there.

And everyone on team 2 can teleport, if those are viable tactics to you. Besides DS can hit his targets across dimensions, he's done it with Imperiex (as an example).

Originally posted by Enyalus
I agree with this. But I think that Prime can outrun it just as Supes does, and that Thanos' shields would stop it. Now, if Prime doesn't attempt to outrun it, right, DS for the win. However, full capacity says he would. Thanos should have his shields up if we're using full capacity, but then again he doesn't frequently, so that could be up for debate.

Physically, DS is beneath both of team one in durability. And has Thanos beat in travel speed (while H2H is probably about equal...maybe.) Strength, etc, I also see as about equal. And Prime's above everyone physically.

....on an unrelated note, I don't know why I'm arguing for Team One, when I said Team Two probably has the better chance. 😛

Prime could try to outrun them. I don't believe Supes has outrun the OS though. He's outrun the Omegas once, but in other instances DS has boxed him in with his beams.

Originally posted by Allankles
So he's supposed to tank having realities altered? Pray tell what abilities he possesses to accomplish this?

I don't know what Thanos shields can do against reality bending power, that's neither here nor there.

And everyone on team 2 can teleport, if those are viable tactics to you. Besides DS can hit his targets across dimensions, he's done it with Imperiex (as an example).


Intangible is also available to Prime

Originally posted by Allankles
So he's supposed to tank having realities altered? Pray tell what abilities he possesses to accomplish this?

I don't know what Thanos shields can do against reality bending power, that's neither here nor there.

And everyone on team 2 can teleport, if those are viable tactics to you. Besides DS can hit his targets across dimensions, he's done it with Imperiex (as an example).

Tanking the blast after he opened up Monarch is a greater feat imo then tanking the OS. You can't name any examples of DS using the OS on somebody of Thanos and Prime individually let alone together. So, all you can do is claim how he could use the OS to kill them but have no evidence where he's done this to a team such as this. If so, by all means please name these people he's "royally screwed". Why did you bring up Imperiex... he tanked that OS so why bring it up? Supes out ran it... It couldn't even kill batman just sent him back in time lol. HPDD tanked it and proceeded to wreck DS in 3 shots. Yet of course the OS would royally mess up two people above him haha.

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
SMP>Odin?

LOL.

Lulz.

Team 2 takes this because Odin solo's the field.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Tanking the blast after he opened up Monarch is a greater feat imo then tanking the OS. You can't name any examples of DS using the OS on somebody of Thanos and Prime individually let alone together. So, all you can do is claim how he could use the OS to kill them but have no evidence where he's done this to a team such as this. If so, by all means please name these people he's "royally screwed". Why did you bring up Imperiex... he tanked that OS so why bring it up? Supes out ran it... It couldn't even kill batman just sent him back in time lol. HPDD tanked it and proceeded to wreck DS in 3 shots. Yet of course the OS would royally mess up two people above him haha.

The OS is not an energy attack, he's used the OS in two story instances and it is a completely different aspect of the Omega Force. It's single function is to warp the victims existence forcing them to live out infinite tragic lives, each one worse than the next.

If Thanos and emo Supes are only brining durability as resistance then, they're truly screwed. The OS has nothing to do with durability but reality - perpetual despair becomes a waking reality.

It's reality altering, not a physical attack.

Odin and Darkseid win against thanos and prime, then they sit down and compare who has the worse relationship with their sons

Odin -" You know I have a son who was a douchebag for a while. He would kill innocents and had a chip on his shoulder. I had to turn him mortal to set him straight."

Darksied " that's nothing, my son wishes I was dead. He spends his whole life training to murder me. My other sons a loser who keeps getting his ass handed to him to impress me"

Odin - " I think my step-son had a sex change"

Darkseid- "Ouch! you win."

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
Odin and Darkseid win against thanos and prime, then they sit down and compare who has the worse relationship with their sons

Odin -" You know I have a son who was a douchebag for a while. He would kill innocents and had a chip on his shoulder. I had to turn him mortal to set him straight."

Darksied " that's nothing, my son wishes I was dead. He spends his whole life training to murder me. My other sons a loser who keeps getting his ass handed to him to impress me"

Odin - " I think my step-son had a sex change"

Darkseid- "Ouch! you win."

You win the "post of thread" award, congrats.

Originally posted by Allankles
The Omega Sanction isn't some generic Monarch energy blast. And Guardians are not above DS, really. DS has taken out/hurt/disabled people above emo Supes in his history.

And the Omega Sanction really has little to do with physical resistance. Either one of Thanos and SBP will go down hard. The OS is not magic or a generic energy blast, it splinters people into a succession of infinite realities, each one worse than the previous and ending in more tragic ways.

You don't tank the OS, you either outrun it or prepare to get royally screwed for eternity.

Monarch is more powerful than the os. Guardians are above Ds imo. Ds is just a top tier mind you.

You can't name someone on their level that this has worked against. You have nothing to back this up.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I asked for an example not definition
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Originally posted by Allankles
It doesn't kill, it simply splits reality around the victim, making them live in an existence of despair, each worse than the next and each ending in a tragic death only to reintroduce another. Basically, it's a spiteful way for DS to get his victims to regret their free will.
Name an example of someone this has worked on near Thanos' or Prime's level. You can't.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Monarch is more powerful than the os. Guardians are above Ds imo. Ds is just a top tier mind you.

You can't name someone on their level that this has worked against. You have nothing to back this up.

Darkseid was moving Monarch around on his chessboard against a Monitor, using him to his benefit. The Gaurdians he didn't worry much about... 😉

Originally posted by kevdude
Darkseid was moving Monarch around on his chessboard against a Monitor, using him to his benefit. The Gaurdians he didn't worry much about... 😉
Manipulating your opponents isn't the same as beating them up. 😐

the Omega effect was a devastating attack pre crisis...
he was able to take out pre crisis Mordru with one shot and he did the same to the Time Trapper so as you can see he has taken out some serious opponents. Thing is that was pre crisis though...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Manipulating your opponents isn't the same as beating them up. 😐

There's nothing in Monarch's arsenal like the OS. And collapsing universes or threatening to collapse universes is something DS has done as well.

Originally posted by Allankles
There's nothing in Monarch's arsenal like the OS. And collapsing universes or threatening to collapse universes is something DS has done as well.
Monarch took out an entire universe. Monarch also treated multiple Supermen like mere children. Monarch is a lot more powerful than Darkseid. You have no proof and it hitting miracle and batman is anything but impressive with the present company included here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Monarch took out an entire universe. Monarch also treated multiple Supermen like mere children. Monarch is a lot more powerful than Darkseid. You have no proof and it hitting miracle and batman is anything but impressive with the present company included here.

Post crisis DS has already treated the heroes like children, even projecting a hologram to pwn heavy hitters like Dr Fate, Supes et al in Superpowers.

Monarch destroyed one universe in his death, DS has on two occasions wrecked the multiverse and time itself because of a death.

Originally posted by Allankles
Post crisis DS has already treated the heroes like children, even projecting a hologram to pwn heavy hitters like Dr Fate, Supes et al in Superpowers.

Monarch destroyed one universe in his death, DS has on two occasions wrecked the multiverse and time itself because of a death.

When was this superpowers? Is it canon? I have never heard of it.

Monarch destroyed a universe under his own power. Ds didn't destroy the multiverse. He had the ale during the entire story as well.

Monarch is on a whole other level. read countdown arena. Ds would get mauled in that type of siutation. Raker owned him and that's one gl.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When was this superpowers? Is it canon? I have never heard of it.

Monarch destroyed a universe under his own power. Ds didn't destroy the multiverse. He had the ale during the entire story as well.

Monarch is on a whole other level. read countdown arena. Ds would get mauled in that type of siutation. Raker owned him and that's one gl.

Basically more of the same.

Monarch is below DS by FC or DOTNG or Foundations.

Originally posted by Allankles
Basically more of the same.

Monarch is below DS by FC or DOTNG or Foundations.

No, he isn't. In foundations he was easily taken care of by less than what Monarch faced in countdown arena.

Darkseid received an amp in death of the new gods which isn't relevant here. In fc Ds had the ale the entire time. Ds is nowhere even close to Monarch.

Monarch>three Supermen while Ds can't seem to beat one on his own.