wolverine vs black panther

Originally posted by Trackz
panther has seen in total darkness (doesn't make sense but it was stated) he has also sensed dr. strange's astral form. as for in a fight, wolverine in their encounters wolverine has never appeared himself Black Panther superior...not once. BP's energy daggers set on high were able to incapacitate marvel zombies (This BP story was canon) and BP stated that the energy daggers completely destroyed the central nervous system. Wolverine has stated this is what takes longest in him to grow back. Even if it takes 5 minutes, it still counts as a KO and a victory in BP's favor.

too add on to this, BP has an entire country filled with some of the most advanced technology in the world, there is no way Wolverine is a better tracker.

wolverine has also sensed astral forms and mystical shadows, smoke and transdimensional observers.

wolverine has stated that his nervous system takes the longest to heal but he is stating it in conjunction of a completely destroyed body in comparison to the rest of his body that is not the same as saying it will take him 5 min. to heal when it is just that sole part that needs regenerate his HF factor can focus on just that damage.

the fact that t' challa has a country and tech has no bearing whatsoever on his tracking skills. it is not his country and satellite doing the work of tracking the tracking has to be done by him alone.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The new material back up story in Classic X-Men 10.

Thanks!

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
wolverine has also sensed astral forms and mystical shadows, smoke and transdimensional observers.

wolverine has stated that his nervous system takes the longest to heal but he is stating it in conjunction of a completely destroyed body in comparison to the rest of his body that is not the same as saying it will take him 5 min. to heal when it is just that sole part that needs regenerate his HF factor can focus on just that damage.

the fact that t' challa has a country and tech has no bearing whatsoever on his tracking skills. it is not his country and satellite doing the work of tracking the tracking has to be done by him alone.

his healing factor was, he stated his body was healing his nervous system, as soon as that was finished it moved on to healing everything else quickly.

I edited the post, however BPs technology does help to enhance his senses further.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well you,ve started already, thats wrong for starters. Furthermore theres usually more going on in the panels than is actually shown but n even in the case of the panels he didnt just dodge one attack.

So you've decided to use your imagination and fill in the spaces between the panels with Black Panther dancing around Wolverine?

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So you've decided to use your imagination and fill in the spaces between the panels with Black Panther dancing around Wolverine?

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BP was evading Wolverines attacks thats what I mean by dancing.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=405357&pagenumber=1

BP dodges the first attack, the second attack. Grabs Wolverine, then flips Wolverine over because he was on top of him breifly.

Im was taking it from memory BP looked faster and more agile.

Panther avoided two attacks, tried to hide from Wolverine, attacked him but Wolverine countered is attack and Panther was pinned because Wolverine "possessed his jungle swiftness," and then got saved when Thing interfered and distracted Logan.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Panther avoided two attacks, tried to hide from Wolverine, attacked him but Wolverine countered is attack and Panther was pinned because Wolverine "possessed his jungle swiftness,"

So nothings changed. BP avoids two of his attacks but Wolverine manages to pin him down once, but you're focusing on one thing that Wolverine did? Even then BP managed to get out of it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

and then got saved when Thing interfered and distracted Logan.

Thats Irrelevant. Im not arguing who would have won the fight im arguing who looked more agile BP evaded more of Wolverines attacks.

Again BP wasnt taking the fight serioulsy.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
So nothings changed. BP avoids two of his attacks but Wolverine manages to pin him down once, but you're focusing on one thing that Wolverine did? Even then BP managed to get out of it.

Thats Irrelevant. Im not arguing who would have won the fight im arguing who looked more agile BP evaded more of Wolverines attacks.

Again BP wasnt taking the fight serioulsy.

Pinning someone is more crucial and important to the outcome of a fight then simply avoiding two attacks. Wolverine attacked Panther twice, and Panther avoided them. Panther attacked Wolverine once, and Wolverine reversed his attack (a reversal which Panther attributed to Wolverine's speed / agility equalling his own) and pinned him. Panther didn't get out of it on his own, Things interference is the only thing that saved him.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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He danced around Wolverine? He avoided one attack by jumping over Wolverine... then he got pinned.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pinning someone is more crucial and important to the outcome of a fight then simply avoiding two attacks.

Thats irrelevant. The fact of the matter is we are arguing who looked more agile. Prior to that attack BP dodged two of his attacks and the reason why he got into position was because he wasnt taking it seriously as wolverine.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Wolverine attacked Panther twice, and Panther avoided them. Panther attacked Wolverine once, and Wolverine reversed his attack (a reversal which Panther attributed to Wolverine's speed / agility equalling his own) and pinned him.

No he didnt he said 'animal senses'

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25fb.jpg

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Panther didn't get out of it on his own, Things interference is the only thing that saved him.

The fourth time now BP got into that poistion because he wasnt taking the fight serioulsy.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
that's irrelevant. The fact of the matter is we are arguing who looked more agile. Prior to that attack BP dodged two of his attacks and the reason why he got into position was because he wasnt taking it seriously as wolverine.

No he didnt he said 'animal senses'

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=25fb.jpg

The fourth time now BP got into that poistion because he wasnt taking the fight serioulsy.

Next panel, he says "jungle swiftness," and if that doesn't mean speed and agility then I'm at a loss to what Panther was trying to say...

Maybe he wasn't trying to kill Wolverine... but that's nothing strange, he is the Black Panther after all; Black Panther not willing to kill Wolverine doesn't mean he wasn't giving it his all. Anyway Panther knew how far Wolverine was willing to go to win, if you think Panther wasn't take the fight seriously when he initiated the attack, then Panther is a moron...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Next panel, he says "jungle swiftness," and if that doesn't mean speed and agility then I'm at a loss to what Panther was trying to say...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Next panel, he says "jungle swiftness."

He asks himself wether he was as fast as him, he didnt say he was. Wolverine then pinned him to the ground but BP wasnt taking the fight serioulsy. All that proves ia that Wolverine can catch BP when hes not trying his best.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Maybe he wasn't trying to kill Wolverine... but that's nothing strange, he is the Black Panther after all; Black Panther not willing to kill Wolverine doesn't mean he wasn't giving it his all.

I dunno man he described the fight as a 'game'. But obvoulsy thats doesnt mean anything to you and you're going to come up with some reason to ignore it probably.

You're probably going to say something like that maybe it doesnt mean he wasnt taking it serioulsy eventhough the very meaning and the context in which he used it was game = not serious.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Anyway Panther knew how far Wolverine was willing to go to win,

No he didnt. Thats why he was asking wether Wolverine meant to kill him.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

if you think Panther wasn't take the fight seriously when he initiated the attack, then Panther is a moron...

I dont even think I want to address that really. Anyway the fact of the matter is he wasnt trying his best regardless of wether you think hes a moron or not.

Originally posted by Starscream M
panther was unconvinced logan had jungle swiftness

Panther was questioning wether Wolverine had it or not. He certainly didnt say what srank said he said.

edit: well he did say jungle swiftness but it doesnt prove hes as fast as BP.

*sigh* This is going to be one of those long annoying threads I better leave....

i got a question when logan goes into high speed mode he becomes a blur and average humans cant see him move or blitz. so my question is how fast can BP seriously be?

logan is a guy who catches knifes rockets and rocket darts ect ect.. i dont see bp being able to do stuff like that.

hell logan uses his claws to block lasers and other projectiles are we seriously saying black panther is faster.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He asks himself whether he was as fast as him, he didnt say he was. Wolverine then pinned him to the ground but BP wasnt taking the fight serioulsy. All that proves ia that Wolverine can catch BP when hes not trying his best.

"Still he cannot possibly posses my jungle swiftness! Can he?"

Perhaps you'd like to explain what you think the point of that statement was? Panther questions whether or not Wolverine speed rivals his own... and immediately after Wolverine counters Panther's attack and reverses it to his own benefit. What do you think that was meant to imply? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the implications of Panther's statement...

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
dunno man he described the fight as a 'game'. But obvoulsy thats doesnt mean anything to you and you're going to come up with some reason to ignore it probably.

You know what else is a game? Hockey. Football. Baseball. Do Hockey players not give it their all when they play a game? Do boxers and mixed martial artists not try their hardest to win every fight?

He asked Wolverine why he was using his claws, when he called it a game, and then Wolverine explained it to him. When Panther re-initiated the fight he already knew Wolverine was using his claws and Wolverine had explained to him why he was using them. Wolverine told Panther that he would do what it takes to win and he was using his claws, I find it hard to believe that Panther wasn't taking the fight seriously after that, if he still wasn't take the fight seriously at that point then he is an idiot.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You're probably going to say something like that maybe it doesnt mean he wasnt taking it serioulsy eventhough the very meaning and the context in which he used it was game = not serious.

See above I guess

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No he didnt. Thats why he was asking wether Wolverine meant to kill him.

When your pinned to the ground and someone is about to stab you, I imagine questioning whether or not your attacker actually means to kill you is common place... especially if they are a superhero.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont even think I want to address that really. Anyway the fact of the matter is he wasnt trying his best regardless of wether you think hes a moron or not.

If he wasn't trying his best when he attacked Wolverine, after Wolverine explained why he was using his claws then he is an idiot, and I'm pretty sure Panther isn't an idiot... infact, I'm pretty sure he is a genius and one of the greatest tactical minds on Marvel earth.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i got a question when logan goes into high speed mode he becomes a blur and average humans cant see him move or blitz. so my question is how fast can BP seriously be?

logan is a guy who catches knifes rockets and rocket darts ect ect.. i dont see bp being able to do stuff like that.

hell logan uses his claws to block lasers and other projectiles are we seriously saying black panther is faster.

Nah, the only person who thinks he is faster is Phantom... and not even Trackz is that delusional.

.,,frankly it could be argued that they are equal physically, however I think Wolverine should be and in a fight would be the physically superior of the two. BP and Wolverines senses however as equal, this and the fact BP has tech to help him leads me to believe he would take the majority against wolverine.

Originally posted by Trackz
.,,frankly it could be argued that they are equal physically, however I think Wolverine should be and in a fight would be the physically superior of the two. BP and Wolverines senses however as equal, this and the fact BP has tech to help him leads me to believe he would take the majority against wolverine.

Wolverine in all 4, but in defense of the 'Contest Of Champions' fight, Wolverine was the only one taking that seriously. Even Thing told him to get a grip.

BP might be as fast as Wolverine too. He's done some crazy stuff like taking down an entire team of Avengers, Iron Fist, Karnak, etc,,,