Anti-Classic Beyonder team · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
So basically you're saying CA Superman has a high chance of winning against TOAA or Presence as well because Beyonder is right up there below them by only the tiniest fraction

TOAA and Presence are supreme beings, but I view Beyonder(PR) as a child(as someone mentioned before).

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus
He likes using no-limit fallacies.
Funny how it didn't adapt to being ****ed up royally by the female vampire monitor.

I know you don't like that the Cosmic Armor is created to fight the ultimate/greatest threat in the universe.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

on panel feats = pr beyonder.

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
I know you don't like that the Cosmic Armor is created to fight the ultimate/greatest threat in the universe.

It was seriously damaged by another Monitor. It didn't adapt.

And it was never tested to reality or temporal altering, or any other kind of exotic powers. It was tested against raw power involving blasts. Omigosh!

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus
It was seriously damaged by another Monitor. It didn't adapt.
And it was never tested to reality or temporal altering, or any other kind of exotic powers. It was tested against raw power involving blasts. Omigosh!

Actually I will try to get you that scan where he says he is adapting.

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually I will try to get you that scan where he says he is adapting.

Save it. I'm talking about when she damaged the armor. I didn't adapt to that attack.

I know it adapts. It doesn't adapt to everything, was my point. So your no-limits fallacy doesn't work.

According to you, CA Superman beats The Source or The Presence because 'it can adapt to anything.'

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually I will try to get you that scan where he says he is adapting.

it doesn't matter if it adapts. you can't adapt to your multiverse having never existed which is what PR Beyonder can do.

occultdestroyer The Original One

PR Beyonder is overrated to extreme levels here in KMC.

Anyways, I don't see him being able to take on Mandrakk, current LT, current Tiamut, or current Synnar.

And you have other powerhouses like CA Supes, Edifice Rex, and Thanos w/ IG.

This team combined is way more powerful than Molecule Man imho.

LDHZenkai Evergreen Oldboy

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
PR Beyonder is overrated to extreme levels here in KMC.
Anyways, I don't see him being able to take on Mandrakk, current LT, current Tiamut, or current Synnar.
And you have other powerhouses like CA Supes, Edifice Rex, and Thanos w/ IG.
This team combined is way more powerful than Molecule Man imho.

If we take Tiamut and the Fulcrum as being equal in power and we take the Fulcrum as being the essence of what holds reality in it's place (which puts him at either LT level or above) then the fight could be interesting. But if we go by on panel feats Beyonder wins.

Doom and Gloom Senior Member

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
PR Beyonder is overrated to extreme levels here in KMC.
Anyways, I don't see him being able to take on Mandrakk, current LT, current Tiamut, or current Synnar.
And you have other powerhouses like CA Supes, Edifice Rex, and Thanos w/ IG.
This team combined is way more powerful than Molecule Man imho.

You can't say Beyonder is overrated. Based on his ON PANEL feats only TOAA or Presence could stop him. I've seen nothing ON PANEL that indicates this team could do anything to Beyonder.

Space M ummy Senior Member

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
You can't say Beyonder is overrated. Based on his ON PANEL feats only TOAA or Presence could stop him. I've seen nothing ON PANEL that indicates this team could do anything to Beyonder.

This thread ignores that every ridiculous thing that PR beyonder did including destroying the concept of death itself was done with only a fraction of his true power, and the molecule man wasn't even a match for that.

Keep in mind THAT molecule man threw out blasts that would have wasted "a million universes" per PR beyonder. no one on this list is anywhere near that strong, and for good reason.

Secret wars was the beyonder fighting blindfolded with one hand tied behind his back and he still owned the entire marvel multiverse.

It's impossible to gauge his true strength, but no one on this list is anywhere near it.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Keep in mind THAT molecule man threw out blasts that would have wasted "a million universes" per PR beyonder. no one on this list is anywhere near that strong, and for good reason.

The UN alone destroyed/remade the entire Marvel multiverse (ie. an infinite amount of universes.) So your statement isn't exactly true.

🙂

Space M ummy Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
The UN alone destroyed/remade the entire Marvel multiverse (ie. an infinite amount of universes.) So your statement isn't exactly true.
🙂

Oh, I'm aware of what the UN can do. but the molecule man's ability to waste "a million universes" or whatever couldn't even injure a beyonder who was taken by surprise AND holding back the majority of his powers.

remember, the definition of PR beyonder was that he/it was a sentient universe quintillions of times more powerful/vast than the entire MU combined. The demonstrated power of the nullifier wouldn't even scratch him- to use the oft used quote, it would be like eliminating a drop of water from the ocean.

Also: The current MU also isn't infinite. there are tens of thousands of universes, but not a truly infinite amount.

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Originally posted by Space M ummy
Also: The current MU also isn't infinite. there are tens of thousands of universes, but not a truly infinite amount.

That's untrue.

Space M ummy Senior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus
That's untrue.

ok, show me. I could be wrong, it's happened before.

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Originally posted by Space M ummy
ok, show me. I could be wrong, it's happened before.

An 'infinity beyond infinity' of realities/multiverses.

Space M ummy Senior Member

Originally posted by Enyalus

An 'infinity beyond infinity' of realities/multiverses.

That scan references areas/realities outside of the influence of eternity/infinity, and towards oblivion- not that the MU IS infinite beyond infinite- but the void beyond it.

As eternity/infinity IS the marvel multiverse, (or everything along it's timeline, it depends) It seems that scan is saying warlock has gone past it's limits into "parts unknown."

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Originally posted by Space M ummy
That scan references areas/realities outside of the influence of eternity/infinity, and towards oblivion-

^ This part is correct. It references realities outside of 616 Eternity/Infinity, yes. An infinity of them. Hence, within the Marvel Universe, there are infinite universes.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
not that the MU IS infinite beyond infinite- but the void beyond it.

Warlock was being shown realities outside of 616. An infinity of them. They weren't, y'know, actually in the void.