Colossus vs Omega Red

Started by jinzin5 pages

I'm still partial to the theory that Red's life sapping was partially responsible for the colossus skin poking.

In any event Red's 3 for 3 against Colossus IIRC so I don't see Petey taking this.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
actaully it quite possiable. Red power drians peoples life force, not only making them weaker, but amping his abilties up as well. So yes it quite possiable, it did happen.
it may make colossus weaker...how does that effect colossus metal skin? his metal skin isn't related to colossus' energy level

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm still partial to the theory that Red's life sapping was partially responsible for the colossus skin poking.

In any event Red's 3 for 3 against Colossus IIRC so I don't see Petey taking this.

Red is Class 100. I thought this was the 2nd fight they had. What issues did they all fight in?

Pretty sure it was in that instance. I want to say there's at least one panel where his life drain reduced Colossus to regular skin.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Red is Class 100. I thought this was the 2nd fight they had. What issues did they all fight in?

At best I think Red's somewhere around Rogue's strength class, he's just got powers armor and weaponry up the ass.

They fought in uncanny
that mini.... what was it? Liberty something... the one where Red ran his tenticles under the ground and snatched Colossus..
and I THINK they ran into eachother one other time in an early X-Men issue, like 17 or somewhere around there. Where Arkady dropped an entire X-Team with his spores in about 20 seconds.

Originally posted by jinzin
Where Arkady dropped an entire X-Team with his spores in about 20 seconds.
how does piotr get affected by spores when he doesn't even breathe...stupidity i tell ya

Originally posted by jinzin

and I THINK they ran into eachother one other time in an early X-Men issue, like 17 or somewhere around there. Where Arkady dropped an entire X-Team with his spores in about 20 seconds.
I don't think they fought in that issue. Pretty sure they didn't.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't think they fought in that issue. Pretty sure they didn't.
Okay, I may be mistaken. I'll see if I can find the ish in a little bit and skin through it let ya know if he's in there or not...

Lol most might not care, but I think they also fought in X-Men Adventures based on the toon.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how does piotr get affected by spores when he doesn't even breathe...stupidity i tell ya
Colossus has been written to be able to withstand Rogue's touch and he was also able to withstand Famine's touch also. Depends on how he writer feels that day.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus has been written to be able to withstand Rogue's touch and he was also able to withstand Famine's touch also. Depends on how he writer feels that day.
exactly, which is why I think red being able to affect colossus was writer ignorance more than anything

And if I recall Elixir's powers won't work on Colossus either.

Meh, no one eve said his powers work in the same facet as theirs so it's hardly worth worrying about.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Red is Class 100. I thought this was the 2nd fight they had. What issues did they all fight in?

Didn't look like a class 100 when Chamber took him apart.

Originally posted by Starscream M
it may make colossus weaker...how does that effect colossus metal skin? his metal skin isn't related to colossus' energy level

yes it is. He often changes back when he weaken or KOed.

When has Omega red been upgraded to class 100? As far as i know he has never been class 100. He's pretty damn strong, but i though only around class 50 or so.

Omega Red wins

I say Red digging into Colossus skin was ignorance. It looked like his regular skin was underneath, giving the appearance that the metal is only a shell, not a full body transformation. And his blood was red, where in an earlier issue, the only issue where he did bleed, his nosebleed looked like mercury/quicksilver, which is more correct. And nobody has ever put any limits on Red, they say he's not super duper amazing, yet he takes stuff that would destroy people easily. There is basically nothing to stop him.

Omega Red is not 100cl. With his tentacles, the highest id set him at is 80 maybe even 90, but no way would i put him higher. Without them, hed be no stronger than Sabes imo. As for him being able to dig his fingers into Colossus's hide, Red also was applying the death factor at the same time which would cause Colossus to lose consciousness/weaken and is armor to dissipate.
In regards to Red and Colossus running into each other in the past, in X-Men #18 after Red dropped the other X-Men, Colossus and Vazhin fled the scene. Colossus didnt want to run and stated "Running away is not my nature, Vazhin.", but Vazhin stated "Survival is mine nikoleivitch! We werent going to win there.."

Red....unfortunaely. That last fight was a stomp.

Originally posted by Starscream M
it may make colossus weaker...how does that effect colossus metal skin? his metal skin isn't related to colossus' energy level

what? i kinda figuered if he was too weak he would revert back to human, life drain = weaker. I'll buy life drain allowing Red to break Skin. And id say Colossus energy is DIRECTLY tied to his ability to stay solid.