Originally posted by carver9
A well written champion with the gem would be a beast but he wouldnt be at a level where wwhulk wouldnt be able to give him a fight (hulk wouldnt win though).WWH would whip that ass for a little but eventually he would get exhausted and would go down to a god like champion.
What the hell are you talking about? baka
Originally posted by janus77Like he did against Sentry?
Hulk wins both scenarios imo.
Power Gem might not have any limits, but Champion will fatigue, mentally if not physically.Hulk also has a limitless power source, but he also has no limits to how much of that he can cope with... his experience and mentality should give him the decisive edge.
nvrmind, it's Janus.
Originally posted by janus77When he was turned into Banner, he was just as strong as Hulk?
Banner = Hulk.
ever read that anywhere in the comic?oh and Hulk was pretty powerful afterwards too...
Ya, afterwards. If he turns into Banner here, he's done in one shot. Champ won't give him the motivation to reach that undefined level.
Originally posted by Mekrob
When he was turned into Banner, he was just as strong as Hulk?
Banner's already one-punch KTFO'd Abomination once, also during WWH both Hulk and Banner have stated it.
Originally posted by Mekrob Ya, afterwards. If he turns into Banner here, he's done in one shot. Champ won't give him the motivation to reach that undefined level. [/B]
Banner cannot be killed, not by someone like Champion, at least. Banner is Hulk, they are one and the same, if you try to kill Banner, you just get a more pissed off Hulk on your hands.
oh and Hulk's already beaten Elders before, iirc.
Originally posted by Nihilist
How will he reach "world breaker lvl"?? .Do you expect Champion to say he was the one that killed his wife and unborn child.
did he require coaching in order to hold Sakaar together with his bare hands? no.
you might not like the character, but it''s silly to pretend that somehow he cannot get strong enough because the opponent won't provoke him sufficiently.
Hulk is as strong as the situation demands him to be.
thus he can contain and expel a universe of energy in one story, and then in another he can be fighting someone as minuscule as Ironman.
Originally posted by janus77It's funny he has never reached that lvl of anger/power before with provocation. It's clear only what was said to him pushed him to that lvl.
that's quite a silly argument, did he need to be given warning/provocation to brace the mountain range which Thor and an assortment of other superheroes could not? no.did he require coaching in order to hold Sakaar together with his bare hands? no.
you might not like the character, but it''s silly to pretend that somehow he cannot get strong enough because the opponent won't provoke him sufficiently.
Hulk is as strong as the situation demands him to be.
thus he can contain and expel a universe of energy in one story, and then in another he can be fighting someone as minuscule as Ironman.
Originally posted by Nihilist
It's funny he has never reached that lvl of anger/power before with provocation. It's clear only what was said to him pushed him to that lvl.
when Banner goes mad, that control element is lost or begins to slip, thus excess power for the situation he faced.
this won't be the case in a fight, just like he doesn't throw punches that would rip IronMan's head off when he fights him but does throw punches that make Thor stagger (at the least) when fighting Thor... he'll simply let loose a little more. resulting in a win for Hulk.
Originally posted by janus77So how does he put someone down who is drawing upon infinite power which amps strength,durability,stamina etc. And who also destroy planets with his punches and survive planetry explosions without any effects.
it's clear that he had no reason to be that powerful either.
as you should know, the Banner persona (not a separate being in and of itself) limits or attempts to limit the amount of power Hulk draws down.when Banner goes mad, that control element is lost or begins to slip, thus excess power for the situation he faced.
this won't be the case in a fight, just like he doesn't throw punches that would rip IronMan's head off when he fights him but does throw punches that make Thor stagger (at the least) when fighting Thor... he'll simply let loose a little more. resulting in a win for Hulk.
WW hulk whilst super pissed couldnt even kill Miek.
Originally posted by janus77He never one shotted Abom as Banner, he punched him... once, and Abom got up interested. I don't recall Banner showing this type of power recently as well. Seems forgotten.
actually, yes.Banner's already one-punch KTFO'd Abomination once, also during WWH both Hulk and Banner have stated it.
Scan of Hulk saying that himself as Banner was just as powerful?
Originally posted by janus77OK.
seeing as you don't know the character you're talking about, you might want to stop.Banner cannot be killed, not by someone like Champion, at least. Banner is Hulk, they are one and the same, if you try to kill Banner, you just get a more pissed off Hulk on your hands.
oh and Hulk's already beaten Elders before, iirc.
I never said he was going to be killed, I said he was going to be KO'ed.
Why would you get a more pissed off Hulk if he gets dropped in one shot as Banner?
He beat Gardner...
Originally posted by Mekrob
He never one shotted Abom as Banner, he punched him... once, and Abom got up interested. I don't recall Banner showing this type of power recently as well. Seems forgotten.
Has it ever been clarified how much of that stuff actually happened and how much of it was nightmare messing with hulk's mind?
Originally posted by Enyalus
That confused me, too.
Lol, I get where you got confused at, it was kind of confusing. What I was simply saying is that hulk would give him a good fight but he would lose in the end due to stamina. 🙁
They are very similar and both dont have a strength cap but I could see hulk eventually getting exhausted whereas champion would remain at a 100 percent.