Originally posted by SurturWrong. A murder is literally just an illegal killing – pretty sure I explained this to you before, but you must have ignored or forgotten that.
The point is that within a certain amount of time it is not considered murder for a woman to get an abortion.So it's not considered a life, correct? Just answer yes or no: could it be considered a life and yet not be seen as murder?
To nip this in the butt from heading into other territory: nope, I'm not talking about abortion in the cases where it's a danger to the mother.
Is it considered a life at two months, yes or no?
Yes, it is a life. It is a life from conception. Every human being is unique from conception – that's a scientific fact. That's why it sucks that people get in situations where they have to have an abortion. It's awful. Abortion is disgusting. But it's been proven that it's much better for humanity at large to have it legal. It sucks, but hey, we have to take that responsibility. Same with drug legislation. Banning them does nothing. It keeps going, it just makes it more dangerous and harmful to society. And, ultimately, the woman should be the one to make that call – she's the one shitting out a life after nine months.
Besides, it's not like pro-lifers care about the kid after it's born. It's not like they want to make life better for the poor. They just want to make sure they don't kill their babies. Once it's born? Sure, let it live a life of poverty, whatever. We saved a life, guys. We did dun gud 4 god.
Originally posted by SurturOf course there are people willing to talk about the shit Trump does, he does loads of stupid shit. He makes his own bad press, honestly. Take the good with the bad. Like I say, be better than the rest – if you believe in him as a president then criticise the bad stuff he does and praise the good. The problem with Obama is that he didn't get criticised by his own side. You just going to do the same as them, and somehow expect things to change?
But nobody cares if you call it like you see it lol. Nor do they care if I do. We aren't the media, nobody listens to us.When they begin to consistently point out hypocrisy we can talk. Until then? There are plenty of people willing to talk about the shit Trump does, correct?
Originally posted by Piggle HumsyI find the act disgusting but pro-life positions don't work
I genuinely don't know where I stand on abortion tbhI don't think I could but then I've never been in that situation
If I was raped and became pregnant would I want to keep that rapists baby? I don't know.
Plus, I try not to judge people if I can. I have close friends that were stupid as **** and didn't use condoms and the lass got pregnant. They nearly kept it, but eventually aborted it. Honestly, I don't judge them. It sucks but maybe it was for the best. Those two hated each other and never would have lasted as parents. The girl is now, finally, pursuing her dream, and is doing well. Did that kid deserve a life? Could he/she have led a good life? Yes, hell yes. But they made that choice. Maybe it was for the best. I don't know; none of us know. It's sad, but it's life, I guess.
Originally posted by Scribble
Of course there are people willing to talk about the shit Trump does, he does loads of stupid shit. He makes his own bad press, honestly. Take the good with the bad. Like I say, be better than the rest – if you believe in him as a president then criticise the bad stuff he does and praise the good. The problem with Obama is that he didn't get criticised by his own side. You just going to do the same as them, and somehow expect things to change?
If they won't try, why should I? I'm sick and tired of the hypocritical bullshit. Now I'd rather just sit back and watch both sides implode, because they both wrongly think they are superior to the other(when neither are).
Originally posted by SurturOkay, fine, keep the pathetic cycle of hypocrisy going. I'm not telling you what to do, but you're clearly taking a side, so get on with it
If they won't try, why should I? I'm sick and tired of the hypocritical bullshit. Now I'd rather just sit back and watch both sides implode, because they both wrongly think they are superior to the other(when neither are).
You do you and all that
Originally posted by Scribble
Okay, fine, keep the pathetic cycle of hypocrisy going. I'm not telling you what to do, but you're clearly taking a side, so get on with itYou do you and all that
This is what the political bullshit does, it burns people out. Good job Dems/Repubs/The Media.
It's also why some Trump supporters will never ever give a shit over any bad thing he does. That's what happens when you cry wolf so many times. People stop giving a f*ck.