Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Maybe i'm just too damn skeptical but i think those videos were full on intentional. The kid spilled the beans in his first video...,he is a comment whore. There is to much editing and self calculation for that to be genuine douchery. The tantrums were forced, so yeah, this kid gets the fail at failing award. 😂
Ha! On a quick rewatch Im inclined to agree with you.
Well he definitely deserves all the abuse that he gets then.
And that detracts from the cringe-comedy that I cited.
I retract my statement. 😛
I agree also that Starwars Kid'd kill this kid in a showdown..
It wouldnt be pretty, it'd be clumsy and lacking finesse, but an asskicking it would be.
I understand what you mean in SW kid's case. He really went through some shit apparently.
But if the kid in this video is asking for abuse by feigning drama rages... he'll probably get it. Therefore he is perpetuating his own suffering. Such masochistic behavior would need little aiding and abetting.
People gotta realise what they are doing when posting these vids.
What sort of reaction do they expect to get...?
indeed, none of them, I suspect, however, also find embarrassing videos of themselves posted in places where they are entirely decontextualized and submitted for the specific point of scrutiny and insult.
I, personally, don't know where anyone is referring to my mouth as being deformed by my father's penis, but were I a small child, that, you know, might irk me the wrong way.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Fair comment, Inimalist.He may learn not to do these vids then.
indeed he might; the same way someone who loses a hand learns about machinery?
EDIT: the "i" is not capitalized. inimalist. Even after a period like that.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
And speaking of the kid's parents... Where were they in controlling their kid's output on the web...? Sounds like THEY are the adults that need to keep their eye on the ball there.
dude, preaching to the choir (though I give children more autonomy than that. Most of us seem to forget how much shit we did without our parents knowledge when we accuse other parents of this stuff. Doing stuff your parents don't know about is part of being a child).
I don't think this excuses a group of, who I would consider, well-educated adults, from, what I would consider, school-yard bullying. That the internet is so large that the child will never find these insults may be the only consolation in it.
Very true, about the non-omnipotence of parents/free will of kid, but Im sure that if this is the problem that the kid makes it out to be, then I bet it wont be long before they clock it.
And when they do they might need to be more responsible for his sake..
I dont think this is quite up to full "hand losing" analogous status,
but your point is taken nonetheless.
On the last point: now if adults from here had gone to a place where they'd known the kid would read it, and started having a go, yeah that'd be bullyish.
And that wouldn't be cool.
But like you say, this is an unrelated forum, and the chances of that kid reading all this is pretty remote, Im thinking...
EDIT: I see you were already with me on that one.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
On the last point: now if adults from here had gone to a place where they'd known the kid would read it, and started having a go, yeah that'd be bullyish.
And that wouldn't be cool.
But like you say, this is an unrelated forum, and the chances of that kid reading all this is pretty remote, Im thinking...EDIT: I see you were already with me on that one.
fair enough
however, there is something to be said, of how empowering and democratizing the internet could be, that it is used to extort people not fitting into mainstream expectations of behaviour and make mockery of individuals.
and there I go being all idealistic again...
Did you say, "Fail"?
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Maybe i'm just too damn skeptical but i think those videos were full on intentional. The kid spilled the beans in his first video...,he is a comment whore. There is to much editing and self calculation for that to be genuine douchery. The tantrums were forced, so yeah, this kid gets the fail at failing award. 😂
All 'isms' are inherently flawed when taken to extremes.
Including idealism.
Ideally no one would ever be in pain or have to die, parents would be bothered about their child's safety enough to restrict or at least monitor the internet usuage of their underage child.... the but in the practical world... the odd kneescraping may be neccesary in the pursuit of higher ideals.. Who knows: This realisation could be the event that makes him become the internet safety officer of 2030 whatever, doing some good... 🙂
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
All 'isms' are inherently flawed when taken to extremes.
Including idealism.Ideally no one would ever be in pain or have to die, parents would be bothered about their child's safety enough to restrict or at least monitor the internet usuage of their underage child.... the but in the practical world... the odd kneescraping may be neccesary in the pursuit of higher ideals.. Who knows: This realisation could be the event that makes him become the internet safety officer of 2030 whatever, doing some good... 🙂
lol, or, as videos above show, he is rewarded for his action by attention and thus continues to seek it through similar, yet more extreme (audience requires it) videos.
We can talk about parents all we want. It is still you up there mocking him.
EDIT: the idealism thing was a sarcastic aside aswell. That the internet encourages depersonalized attacks against one another (evidenced by way more than just this thread) rather than spreading information and empowering those without voice is a travesty that all humanity should be embarassed about.
Hey I mocked him.
So...?
Enter that into the public domain, and it might be mocked.
Like youve never mocked anyone in your life... lolz
I dont think I was in anyway responsible for the line you quoted earlier.
This kids actions are not immune to mockery.
I lack a certain piousity maybe.
But nobodys perfect I guess.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Hey I mocked him.So...?
Enter that into the public domain, and it might be mocked.
Like youve never mocked anyone in your life... lolz
EDIT: sorry, this became a rant, wasn't aware of how long I was running lol
I heard someone talking about ethics on the internet. I can't say I'm innocent in anything, but recently, ya, I think you would be very hard pressed to find that sort of mockery from me online. Especially not directed at someone who couldn't respond directly. I've had to make a conscious effort not to.
There is just something about the internet, the anonymity plus the social interaction make it a place where being a jerk is easy with almost none of the social problems that normally come along with it. The problem is that these actions have real world consequences.
Some kid, comes here, posts those videos of himself, here, and asks us to comment on their content? ok, fair enough, in that case he is literally asking for it, and the idea that "thick skin" and some parental monitoring might be the solution sounds pretty good to me.
But, why are we propagating these images, why do I continue to bump a thread containing these images in them, what is our role in causing misery to another person.
Maybe I'm asking a more general question, not really with respects to these videos, but about how we use technology to oppress each other. This is a place where I have witnessed some amazing ideas from people from a huge variety of backgrounds. While ubiquitous in our age, the idea of a forum like this was unheard of even thirty years ago. A place where people of all nationalities could come together and not be judged by their appearance, but by their ideas, the content of their contribution.
With everything else, why do we need to mock a child, who really probably just wants their dad to throw a ball with them, on a forum dedicated to these types of interactions, as if mocking someone is akin to discussing economic recovery plans.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I dont think I was in anyway responsible for the line you quoted earlier.
certainly not, it was more an example. I didn't mean to insinuate anything like that
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
This kids actions are not immune to mockery.
I lack a certain piousity maybe.But nobodys perfect I guess.
I don't think he should be immune
not doing the wrong thing is way different from doing the right thing
All very astute observations.
I cant see how this is exactly oppressing the guy though.
Different if the mockery was intended for his consumption/delivered within his range of receivership/deliberately meant to hurt his feelings.
I guess Im too busy worrying about people I actually know, rather than some bratty kid who should have been denied access long ago, that I dont know.. Only so much compassion to go around sometimes.
I mean, say I saw the kid getting his ass beat on the street by an adult, Id step up in his defense.
But this is a whole different deal on the "Not acting=Bad" part of the equation here.
I certainly dont feel like Im less of a person for not championing this kid as some new messiah of persecution and suffering.
If he thinks this sort of thing is horrific, he may want to see how the children of undeveloped countries live. Or think about the prospect of his family that he probably screams at when he cant get his internet ways will die with time and his freinds will leave too, maybe running off with his future wife as they go.... All the lovely little facts of life that make "Someone called a me a homo on the internet" look like the small SMALL fry that it is.
And I totally agree we are giving the little fool too much airplay already.
As for more on how mocking children can be funny:
I submit to you the evidence of Family Guy, South Park, and shows like "Kids do the funniest things"... Shows built on ridicule that have endured..... 😛
So to sum up.
Its better to be laughed at/with and accepted - than ignored. 🙂