Originally posted by Original Smurph
Genuine.
I'm not talking about the shit with him holding back against Rulk, but him going for the jugular.
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Originally posted by EnyalusCool, cool.
Lotta speculation here. But based on what WM Thor w/ PG did, the fact that Odin is stronger than that, taking his feats into account (like physically one-shotting Durok), Thor having the full Odinforce and what he's done when wielding it properly...like 8x Current Supes' strength. Roughly.I'm not talking about the shit with him holding back against Rulk, but him going for the jugular.
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I completely disagree, but, like I said, haven't read much of current Thor.
From what I understand, pretty much every fight he's in nowadays is mostly speculation based on how much of the odin force he's employing.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Cool, cool.I completely disagree, but, like I said, haven't read much of current Thor.
From what I understand, pretty much every fight he's in nowadays is mostly speculation based on how much of the odin force he's employing.
Thor #7-8 and the most recent, Thor #600 all confirm he's got the full Odinpower. In the former, Odin himself talks to Thor about it (while they're in the Netherrealm) and in the latter example he's talking about it (mostly to himself) all throughout the issue. His feats from his King Thor days and other times he's wielded the Odinforce should be applicable based on that.
Originally posted by EnyalusAnd yet, he's demonstrated nothing yet that would indicate that.
Thor #7-8 and the most recent, Thor #600 all confirm he's got the full Odinpower. In the former, Odin himself talks to Thor about it (while they're in the Netherrealm) and in the latter example he's talking about it (mostly to himself) all throughout the issue. His feats from his King Thor days and other times he's wielded the Odinforce should be applicable based on that.
Speculation for now...
Originally posted by Original Smurph
And yet, he's demonstrated nothing yet that would indicate that.Speculation for now...
Mandrakk didn't demonstrate that he was the 'greatest threat,' either. People accept that as a given fact, though. Current Thor's still physically beaten the Destroyer, Surtur, and Bor. Along with trashing a superskrull strong enough to thrash the rest of Asgard's army easily and beat BRB like a stepchild.
Put a multiversal threat like Monarch in front of Thor and he'd doubtlessly unleash his full power in an effort to stop him.
Originally posted by EnyalusMy only question is what the height of his power is. srug
Mandrakk didn't demonstrate that he was the 'greatest threat,' either. People accept that as a given fact, though. Current Thor's still physically beaten the Destroyer, Surtur, and Bor. Along with trashing a superskrull strong enough to thrash the rest of Asgard's army easily and beat BRB like a stepchild.Put a multiversal threat like Monarch in front of Thor and he'd doubtlessly unleash his full power in an effort to stop him.
We've seen little definite to test how much he can unleash, correct?
I mean... he lost to Red Hulk, but who didn't?
He became exhausted after ressurecting the other gods (or moving Asgard or something along those lines), but I can't exactly place a power level on that.
Couldn't tell you whether I think that his power height would be capable of beating Monarch til I see him perform something along those lines.
Originally posted by Slaanesh
he didn't trash the superskrull..he needed the others help to beat her..
Originally posted by Original Smurph
He became exhausted after ressurecting the other gods (or moving Asgard or something along those lines), but I can't exactly place a power level on that.
Originally posted by Original Smurph
Couldn't tell you whether I think that his power height would be capable of beating Monarch til I see him perform something along those lines.
Sure. I think Monarch's power level might be higher than what King Thor displayed. What I'm basing scenario 1 off of is just the fact that Thor's trashed tough armor in the past. In addition to the Destroyer and the interior and exterior of a Celestial, he's also completely trashed the Celestial Slayer (forget her actual name, but she wore living Celestial armor and one-shot killed Thor's duplicate as well as almost killing Thunderstrike with ease [with the same blast]). So he's got a history of busting open armor. And Mjolnir can absorb or redirected the energy once his suit is cracked.
I think Thor just matches up well. That's the main reason why I chose him in both.
Now then, I'm gonna channel my inner TP, pretend like I won this little debate-ish, and go to bed. 🙂
Originally posted by SlaaneshFandral couldn't even plunge his sword in deep enough to even do any damage, if you mean the Asgardians helped Thor by giving him a sword, ok, other than that they didn't do anything.
thor was only able to get the upperhand when fandral drive in his sword and Thor thrust it in..they were about equal before that..
Even then the sword only put the SuperSkrull down for a few moments, so I don't see how you think the Asgardians were of any significant importance in that fight.
Like I said, they were barely an annoyance.
Originally posted by Galan007That depends. Now to Thanos wave his hammer down it or did it hit a forcefield and hit the dirt. Both are logical imo. Thanos has also been rocked by the hammer as well.
Has not Mjolnir been stopped in mid-air by Thanos? I would certainly think Monarch could replicate that - thus, I don't see throwing Mjolnir gaining Thor much (if anything.) As for the physical strikes, if Monarch was playing smart/safe he wouldn't let Thor get close enough to swat him.iyo.
Originally posted by Mindset
Fandral couldn't even plunge his sword in deep enough to even do any damage, if you mean the Asgardians helped Thor by giving him a sword, ok, other than that they didn't do anything.Even then the sword only put the SuperSkrull down for a few moments, so I don't see how you think the Asgardians were of any significant importance in that fight.
Like I said, they were barely an annoyance.
they help and it doesn't matter anyway..Thor only got the upperhand when she doesn't have Stormbreaker anymore..all i want to say is that Thor didn't trash her like someone said he did..