Meh. Juggs fights like crap. Every blow would be glancing at best, with little momentum behind it, and not striking key areas.
Danny's however would hit on target. Even if Sabertooth managed to avoid some key strikes, they'd hit a lot more accurately than Juggernaut's, especially when Elektra is there as well.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When did it say he didn't have a healing factor when he fought Iron Fist?
I don't recall that ever being said. Scan, issue number etc.? I though I read all their fights.
Doesent have to be stated. It wasent part of his character yet. why would they state he dident have an ability that had nothing to do with his character at the time. what your asking for is stupid. im not sure what you dont get. sabertooth that was the IF villain is not the same sabertooth he is to day. Back when he wa sa IF villain his power set and history was very different.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What do you mean a Class 100 cannot put down Sabertooth?So wait, did you miss all the times, beings less than a Class 100 have put him down?
Lol. A Class 100 being such as say as Colossus have the tools necessary to rip Sabertooth into pieces if they wanted too.
not with out circumstances and not with blunt force.
No they really dont and havent. hell AOA sabertooth uses to constanly spar with AOA colossus and kick his ass if I recall correctly
Originally posted by BattlehammerHowever, even if, Sabertooth wouldn't see a difference if he looked back on it, and thus, it would essentially be Daniel being the fister, while Sabes would be the fisty.
yea it cannon, but nothing real impressive. IF was able to beat a sabertooth thats nothing like he is now. good for if.actaully when he fought sabertooth a 3rd time and sabertooth was written like he currently is, sabertooth toyed with him lol.
becuases it was shown he dident have a healing factor. Black cat cuts him during that time period and he neevr healed. It was not part of his character and wouldent be for years. They never explained why wolverine was never shown to have a healing factor untill 5 years after his creation
Issue?
Fist has gained an upgrade via another Fist as well...
Issue?
Also, going back to whatever I said at the top of this post, then it would be ret-conned to Fist gaining the win via Fist, still. 😬
Originally posted by Mekrob
However, even if, Sabertooth wouldn't see a difference if he looked back on it, and thus, it would essentially be Daniel being the fister, while Sabes would be the fisty.Issue?
Fist has gained an upgrade via another Fist as well...Issue?
Also, going back to whatever I said at the top of this post, then it would be ret-conned to Fist gaining the win via Fist, still. 😬
Not sure dont have my comics with me, should be in the IF respect thread.
who cares if it was recontt he wasent written with the powers he has now, makes it pointless to uses as evidences.
Originally posted by BattlehammerRead it again.
what?Not sure dont have my comics with me, should be in the IF respect thread.
who cares if it was recontt he wasent written with the powers he has now, makes it pointless to uses as evidences.
link?
But again, even if, it would still be a win via the same way he won, but it would possibly (if your argument holds true) be retconned to Sabes having his current power at this timeframe.
Meaning that everything would be updated to the highest power levels that they could have been during that timeframe.
Originally posted by Battlehammer Doesent have to be stated. It wasent part of his character yet. why would they state he dident have an ability that had nothing to do with his character at the time. what your asking for is stupid. im not sure what you dont get. sabertooth that was the IF villain is not the same sabertooth he is to day. Back when he wa sa IF villain his power set and history was very different.
So you're proof would be?
Originally posted by Battlehammer Sabertooth can be put down with class 100 shots it just takes quit e a few.
Quite a few?
Put him up against someone of sufficient power and he gets his head knocked off.
Originally posted by Battlehammer not with out circumstances and not with blunt force.
Sabertooth has been knocked out in the past.
Originally posted by Battlehammer No they really dont and havent. hell AOA sabertooth uses to constanly spar with AOA colossus and kick his ass if I recall correctly
Are you joking me?
Colossus has more than sufficient strength, to rip Sabertooth's head off, without to much problem, if he gets his hands on him.
Age of Apocalypse. Alternate reality.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So you're proof would be?Sabertooth has been knocked out in the past.
Are you joking me?
Colossus has more than sufficient strength, to rip Sabertooth's head off, without to much problem, if he gets his hands on him.
Age of Apocalypse. Alternate reality.
? proof? It a fact sabertooth dident have a healing factor untill he was made a wolverine villain. Im not even sure he had any powers asside form superhuman senses as a IF villain.
yes with circumstances
not all all.
he doesent at all. sabertooth has high level of durability. MS marvel a class 50 couldent even give him a nerve shot becuases he was so denses. she was tired, but still.
yea true however it derived from 616 and AOA sabertooth is weaker then 616
Originally posted by Mekrob
Read it again.link?
But again, even if, it would still be a win via the same way he won, but it would possibly (if your argument holds true) be retconned to Sabes having his current power at this timeframe.
Meaning that everything would be updated to the highest power levels that they could have been during that timeframe.
go to the respect thread section and look up IF thread.
ecpt time it was written he dident have them. So it would not be an accurate describition of how a fight would go down....... n
Originally posted by Battlehammer
? proof? It a fact sabertooth dident have a healing factor untill he was made a wolverine villain. Im not even sure he had any powers asside form superhuman senses as a IF villain.
Where does it say that?
Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes with circumstances
When I'm not lazy, I'll dig up some scans.
Originally posted by Battlehammer not all all.[QUOTE=11769627]Originally posted by Battlehammer [B]Not at all?
Sabertooth is only durable to an extent. Someone like Colossus, Hulk, Thor, etc. can easily rip his head off.
[QUOTE=11769627]Originally posted by Battlehammer [B]he doesent at all. sabertooth has high level of durability. MS marvel a class 50 couldent even give him a nerve shot becuases he was so denses. she was tired, but still.
Yet Wolverine does so much against him....
Batman has been able to hurt Wonder Woman with a nerve strike.
I find both instances PIS.
Originally posted by Battlehammer yea true however it derived from 616 and AOA sabertooth is weaker then 616
All alternate Universes basically derive from the 616 Universe.
Age of Apocalypse Sabertooth is weaker than 616 incarnation?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where does it say that?When I'm not lazy, I'll dig up some scans.
Yet Wolverine does so much against him....
Batman has been able to hurt Wonder Woman with a nerve strike.
I find both instances PIS.
All alternate Universes basically derive from the 616 Universe.
Age of Apocalypse Sabertooth is weaker than 616 incarnation?
wolverine using piercing attack.......how is the similar?
Batman has a huge jubber aura. also how does this make MS marvel failing to uses a nerve strike on sabertooth PIS?
most not all.
Yes a good deal weaker actaully. He missed many upgrades 616 recieved.
Originally posted by Battlehammerk, neat.
still dont understand itgo to the respect thread section and look up IF thread.
ecpt time it was written he dident have them. So it would not be an accurate describition of how a fight would go down....... n
link?
But he would have been retconned to have them.
Also, he still had strength, speed, and senses... noted back then. Plus he wasn't an animal as you alluded to earlier.
I mean, fo gawd's sake, he had a healing factor in wut, 11 issues of his appearances later? Just expanded upon when he actually needed it. 😬