Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganhaha the batkick comments do get quite annoying
DC fans tactics are quite amusing. Instead of debate we get crap like BATKICK>>everyone and then ten other people who quote it in agreement because there unable to provide any evidence other wise. Then we have people trying to pretend the people backing elektra up are the fanboys classic really 🙄
debating tactic of people in favor of elektra
-oh she can punch through body armor while mentally and physically exhausted
-she has ninja magic hax and TP but has almost no feats using it on any decent Martial artist worth a damn.
-she can deflect automatic fire with her sai's.
Repeat all of this ad nauseum while downplaying another character until everyone stops arguing
Batman can fight Karate Kid and use pressure points on Wonder Woman but somehow this just isn't enough to put down Elektra.smh
Argument kind of works both ways doesn't it?
"what has Elektra ever done that puts her on Batman's level?"
Pffft please.
The bottem line is that Elektra is not only a top tier martial artist like Batman, but ALSO has a ton of mystical ninja abilities that give her physical, mental, and magical advantages over regular/peak opponents in forum fights.
The only issue when it comes down to it for the girl is her lack of appearances and cross genre books, something Batman has in spades.
It's easy to think Batman's better because of his feats and association through things like JLA stories but put them under a microscope and things don't look great for him.
Elektra's entire career spans a number of times that she has stood up to opponents who are shadows of Batman or at the very least closely comparible and she's held her own, beaten and in some cases steam rolled through them. When Batman alternatively gets stacked up against his MA "peers" he tends to underperform to a degree that really makes his outcome in this thread look doubtful.
Originally posted by jinzin
The bottem line is that Elektra is not only a top tier martial artist like Batman, but ALSO has a ton of mystical ninja abilities that give her physical, mental, and magical advantages over regular/peak opponents in forum fights.
I don't agree or disagree that Elektra might edge him in some aspects, but Batman is only peak human by description. His feats put him above that. Same deal with Cap.
Originally posted by jinzin
It's easy to think Batman's better because of his feats and association through things like JLA stories but put them under a microscope and things don't look great for him.
Well, you should provide examples here, and hopefully not just picking the low end feats.
BTW, who do you think are the top 3 MA's of Marvel? I don't mean power, I mean in terms of skill. Just curious.
Ironfist
Elektra
Daredevil
in terms of demonstrable skill on a regular basis from a mainstream character, not counting obscures like Temugin, stick or ogun.
Wolverine has the knowledge but the technical skill doesn't need to be used by him often enough becuase his other attributes are usually enough (adamantium claws, hf, general durability) so a swipe from him is as good or btter than a pressure point we might see from one of the other 3.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
DC fans tactics are quite amusing. Instead of debate we get crap like BATKICK>>everyone and then ten other people who quote it in agreement because there unable to provide any evidence other wise. Then we have people trying to pretend the people backing elektra up are the fanboys classic really 🙄
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Some batfans would have you believe that batkick>>>>solid primary adamantium.
Originally posted by SasuOna
debating tactic of people in favor of elektra-oh she can punch through body armor while mentally and physically exhausted
-she has ninja magic hax and TP but has almost no feats using it on any decent Martial artist worth a damn.
-she can deflect automatic fire with her sai's.
Repeat all of this ad nauseum while downplaying another character until everyone stops arguing
Batman can fight Karate Kid and use pressure points on Wonder Woman but somehow this just isn't enough to put down Elektra.smh
Bats has faced Val twice. Practically got his ass handed to him the first time, though still outstmarted him. Then Stalemated the B&B 3Boot Val. I think he can hang with Elektra in a hth situation.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
DC fans tactics are quite amusing. Instead of debate we get crap like BATKICK>>everyone and then ten other people who quote it in agreement because there unable to provide any evidence other wise. Then we have people trying to pretend the people backing elektra up are the fanboys classic really 🙄
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Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganYes, and the Marvel drones are so much more enlightened.
DC fans tactics are quite amusing. Instead of debate we get crap like BATKICK>>everyone and then ten other people who quote it in agreement because there unable to provide any evidence other wise. Then we have people trying to pretend the people backing elektra up are the fanboys classic really 🙄
Originally posted by srankmissingninYou should fit right in the CV then.
Elektra wins. If you think otherwise, I here Comicvine is always look for opinionated idiots. 😎
Let's try something new. You actually debate more and insult less. Or we can keep things the same and see what happens.
That goes for anyone else I've had to address.