Original ION vs RKT

Started by vlaaad123455 pages

Still waiting on odin having universe destroying power using only a little of the odinforce.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Still waiting on odin having universe destroying power using only a little of the odinforce.

When you can create a universe don't you think you can destroy one?
Of course that would take the full amount of the OF IMO

And what universe did odin create exactly?please tell me your not talking about the scan you showed with a star and a planet.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
And what universe did odin create exactly?please tell me your not talking about the scan you showed with a star and a planet.

yes I'm talking about that one and if you bother buying the book you'll see in the previews page that he was creating a universe. The way the artist wants to present it is not my business

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I remember Zero Hour.

I remember Hal taking quite the beating from all sorts of people.

That was after he expended most of his power to create the plasma template universe. Doing that takes quite a bit of power y'know.
Originally posted by Warlord
Ah but still that was the power of the guardians combined with the power of Parallax entity and although it is a higher feat it is not leagues above the pocket universe Odin created there as a display of Odinforce's capabilities
Parallax on his own has no power. He only leeches off the power of someone he holds sway over through fear. I have no idea what this pocket universe feat is you're referring to.

Then post it,not that it matters anyways because kyle matched universal destruction power using only a portion of the ion force.

Why post it since it doesn't matter....?
And yeah Ion wins

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
After destroying the universe by tightening the loop between the beginning and end of time, Hallax created a plasma template universe in Zero Hour. 😐

Parallax was also amped by a serious dose of Entropy. It wasn't just the Oan Power he had access to. ZH Parallax would defeat Classic Ion, anyway, so I don't get why he was brought up.

Also, Classic Ion was nowhere near omniscient. There are at least two examples of him not knowing something during that run. One involving his girlfriend fighting, the other his father.

RKT in Scenario 1 and the Team in Scenario 2 take wins here. RKT absorbs most of the Oan Power with Mjolnir and seals off Ion's access to the rest of it with a rune spell, or something equally strange.

And rkt did that to a multiversal entity when?o yeah never,Ion blasts rkt the end.

Since when was Ion a multiversal entity?

Since partial versions of his power>a big bang and can end a universe?

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Since partial versions of his power>a big bang and can end a universe?

I don't recall this 'ending a universe' feat, but even assuming he did - Odin has literally affected the multiverse and fought a battle simultaneously across all realities. Which makes him multiversal in a true sense.

And RKT is more powerful. So...

Oblivion was going to end a universe,imperiex is a big bang or stronger and both are only portions of his power,Ion is multiversal in a true sense as well seeing as he actually does universal feats with barely any of his power or can exist everywhere simultaneously or can screw with time without effort,so again lemme know when rkt actually does something beyond universal destroying power and used barely any of his power to accomplish it and we will start talking.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Parallax was also amped by a serious dose of Entropy. It wasn't just the Oan Power he had access to. ZH Parallax would defeat Classic Ion, anyway, so I don't get why he was brought up.
He absorbed some of the energies left over from the original Crisis to make his way to the end of time and used it to tighten the loop to destroy the universe. He never absorbed entropy. The new universe was also entirely plasma. Which is GL energy.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Also, Classic Ion was nowhere near omniscient. There are at least two examples of him not knowing something during that run. One involving his girlfriend fighting, the other his father.
Fine. Relative omniscience.
Originally posted by Enyalus
RKT in Scenario 1 and the Team in Scenario 2 take wins here. RKT absorbs most of the Oan Power with Mjolnir and seals off Ion's access to the rest of it with a rune spell, or something equally strange.
There's no reason to think RKT could forcefully strip Ion of the Power of the Guardians. Nobody's forcefully done it to Ion or Parallax. And the Guardians have actually forcefully contained magic with their power, i.e. Starheart.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Since when was Ion a multiversal entity?
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Since partial versions of his power>a big bang and can end a universe?
Pure reaching and speculation and doesn't take into account the fact that Imperiex had not gone Big Bang yet and Braniac-13 fully absorbed Imperiex's energies. What... is Braniac-13 multiversal because he can absorb Imperiex's energy? 🙄

Kyle contained all of imperiexs energies that were spilling out and did so while barely having any of the ionforce,when you can contain universe+ destroying energies using only a fraction of your might you are multiversal.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
After destroying the universe by tightening the loop between the beginning and end of time, Hallax created a plasma template universe in Zero Hour. 😐
This.

Plus the fact that Ion also possessed the Starheart, and the energies of Oblivion. That said, he had more power at his disposal than Parallax imo.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That was after he expended most of his power to create the plasma template universe.

And makes him vulnerable to attacks from Street Levellers?

Even Odin can stay near death for weeks/tortured, and still is far above that stuff...

Originally posted by Galan007
Plus the fact that Ion also possessed the Starheart, and the energies of Oblivion. That said, he had more power at his disposal than Parallax imo.

That was the second version of Ion...which should've been the most powerful, but...probably was not, for some strange reason.

And odin isn't a normal human when he completelly runs out of power from ending creation fighting off the spectre and making a new creation.