Wonder woman vs street levers/metas

Originally posted by Draco69
Which opponent is gonna tag her or get a chance to pierce her?

Read WW #31. Diana uses her superspeed to disarm an entire army with scary swords and spears.

That's of course if we completely ignore her flight, speed, tiara, Invisible Plane, etc.

street levelers regularly beat entire rooms of hand ninjas and other human soldiers before they can even react

Originally posted by Draco69
Name one street leveler on this thread who's capable of dispatching much less seriously posing a threat to someone of WW's level.

Diana regularly owns people on street level, mid level, top tier, etc.

Venom's held his own against Juggernaut

and the rest are all more powerful than either Wolverine or Venom

does that mean nothing to you?

Originally posted by Starscream M
is it not within wolverine's power to slit WW's throat, if he sliced her neck with all his strength?

Sure it is.

It's also within Diana's power to deflect Wolverine's blow and toss him like a javelin at her other opponents.

Now, sweetie which do you think it more likely in regards to PIS and oh, I don't know, logic?

Wolverine's odds of getting a blow like that are extremely slim if Diana is KMC-competant.

And another thing, I fail to see people recognize. None of these guys (with the exception of Logan and Peter) are team players. They'll be tripping over themselves and hitting each other rather than acting with any sort of coordination.

Diana's a master strategist who regularly goes up against armies. She'll exploit such raw disorganization. Pick off the strongest (Peter first), separate them into smaller units and work her way down.

Originally posted by Draco69

Wolverine's odds of getting a blow like that are extremely slim if Diana is KMC-competant.

but I was responding to the guy who said it was likely that WW could punt Logan and others into outer space...it's possible, but unlikely to happen.

Originally posted by Starscream M
an entire army? wow

Actually they were demigods reanimated by Zeus.

Nice attempt downplaying the speed feat though. Kudos.

Originally posted by Starscream M
street levelers regularly beat entire rooms of hand ninjas and other human soldiers before they can even react

Which of course is equal to Diana pulling a Flash and quite literally stealing weapons from an army of demigods from various locations around the world....?

Originally posted by Starscream M
Wolverine's held his own against Hulk, Juggernaut

Venom's held his own against Juggernaut

and the rest are all more powerful than either Wolverine or Venom

does that mean nothing to you?

Wonder Woman has held her own against a bloodlusted Superman.

She's defeated entire pantheons of gods.

She's fought Captain Marvel to a standstill.

Does this mean nothing to you?

Try again, sweetie.

Originally posted by Draco69

Which of course is equal to Diana pulling a Flash and quite literally stealing weapons from an army of demigods from various locations around the world....?

but Diana does not display superspeed in combat 99% of the time...unlike Superman who often speedblitzes his opponent

so we shouldn't suddenly say Diana will fight out of character and speedblitz her opponents when she almost never does so

Originally posted by Starscream M

but I was responding to the guy who said it was likely that WW could punt Logan and others into outer space...it's possible, but unlikely to happen.

She can't punt him into space. She's in an adamatium arena.

Can she punt him across the arena or use him like spear if she wants to?

Sure.

Originally posted by Draco69

Diana's a master strategist who regularly goes up against armies. She'll exploit such raw disorganization. Pick off the strongest (Peter first), separate them into smaller units and work her way down.

going after Piotr first would be falling into the team's trap...as Piotr's sole purpose would be to bait WW and seeing that Piotr would actually be the smallest threat to WW (he's the only one without pierce damage capabiliities)

the rest can throw in side shots while she wails against Piotr, who can take what she dishes, for awhile at least

Originally posted by Starscream M
if you're not exaggerating, which I dont put past you, that would be quite impressive...

Well, no. Gail Simone is writing it. So, I'm not surprised.

Originally posted by Starscream M
[B]but Diana does not display superspeed in combat 99% of the time...unlike Superman who often speedblitzes his opponent
B]

She doesn't use her speed in combat like Superman or Flash. She prefers to react with superspeed rather than pour it on. She certainly fights with enhanced speed that the others simply cannot keep up with.

Unless you wanna argue that Diana is fighting within normal human speeds which is ludricous.

Which is why when ever she goes up against the Cheetah, she ramps up her speed to match hers.

Cheetah is nearly as fast as the Flash. She even managed to speedblitz him once.

btw, Im sure you watched the recent WW cartoon (which was quite good btw) and even the JLU series

WW has never shown even the slightest shred of superspeed in her depictions on tv...

Originally posted by Draco69
She prefers to react with superspeed rather than pour it on.

Whether she has superspeed or not is irrelevant.

Its not within her character to beat her opponents by using her speed advantage.

Certainly, if she is facing a speedy foe, ie Superman or Cheetah, she will ramp up her speed.

But unlike Flash or Superman, she won't outspeed her opponents, she will fight at her opponent's speed.

check mate.

Originally posted by Starscream M
ha that would be the dumbest strategy

going after Piotr first would be falling into the team's trap...as Piotr's sole purpose would be to bait WW and seeing that Piotr would actually be the smallest threat to WW (he's the only one without pierce damage capabiliities)

Hardly. Piotr's a wrecking ball that Diana can use.

Diana likes to use big characters to wreck small ones. It's part of schtick.

She uses Giganta as an oversized human mallet to wack away Silver Swan and Dr. Poison.

She uses poor Sharpnel (think Colossus in pieces) like a ram to destroy the Secret Society headquarters.

She uses tanks and alien spaceships to swing them into armies.

Piotr's an attractive asset that Diana can use.

This is of course if Diana just wants to have some fun and spice it up a bit.

Originally posted by Starscream M
EXACTLY MY POINT.

Whether she has superspeed or not is irrelevant.

Its not within her character to beat her opponents by using her speed advantage.

Normally, no. Warrior heritage. Much like Thor. Thor can decimate many opponents easily but he prefers to be 'honorable'.

Originally posted by Starscream M
But unlike Flash or Superman, she won't outspeed her opponents, she will fight at her opponent's speed.

check mate.

Um, no. Wrong. She fights with enhanced speed to which many of opponents can't keep up with her. She never intentionally 'slows' herself down to be 'equal' to that of her foe.

Unless, it's a swordfight. She lessens herself to be fair. That's one thing exception she makes

Originally posted by Draco69

She uses Giganta as an oversized human mallet to wack away Silver Swan and Dr. Poison.

She uses poor Sharpnel (think Colossus in pieces) like a ram to destroy the Secret Society headquarters.

Originally posted by Starscream M
btw, Im sure you watched the recent WW cartoon (which was quite good btw) and even the JLU series

WW has never shown even the slightest shred of superspeed in her depictions on tv...

Wait, you're judging WW by depictions on television?

Ugh, no wonder.

Actually there was one depiction of superspeed in Hawk & Dove episode, other than that she was superspeed-less.

Please read some WW comics.

And I guess I can use X-Men movies to properly gauge Wolverine and Sabretooth right?

I mean, tht would be fair....

Originally posted by Draco69
She fights with enhanced speed to which many of opponents can't keep up with her.

Originally posted by Draco69
Wait, you're judging WW by depictions on television?

Ugh, no wonder.

Actually there was one depiction of superspeed in Hawk & Dove episode, other than that she was superspeed-less.

Please read some WW comics.

And I guess I can use X-Men movies to properly gauge Wolverine and Sabretooth right?

I mean, tht would be fair....

see, speedsters are depicted with superspeed on tv as well (its not like your superspeed get magically removed as you move from the comic medium to the tv medium)...so while Superman and Flash have both shown superspeed on tv, WW has not...gee I wonder why 🙄

also, the x-men movies were shit. but you can certainly use the cartoons as partial representation of wolverine and sabretooth.

Originally posted by Starscream M
nice...WW has pwned pathetic jobbers...which translates to her also abusing Colossus in a similar way? yeah...no. 😐

Giganta is not a jobber....

Giganta possesses superhuman strength that nearly matches Diana when she's normal size.

However when she grows, her density and strength increases exponentially.

Her best feat was being bigger than Manhattan Island.

Silver Swan is basically Archangel with Blackbolt's scream.

Dr. Poison is basically Morgaine Le Fay and Dr. Doom mixed together.

Nice try....

Originally posted by Starscream M
no, Im judging her speed by comics...just using tv depictions as the cream on top

see, speedsters are depicted with superspeed on tv as well (its not like your superspeed get magically removed as you move from the comic medium to the tv medium)...so while Superman and Flash have both shown superspeed on tv, WW has not...gee I wonder why 🙄

Oh, lord.

You're ACTUALLY arguing that the JLU comic can be used as evidence in a COMIC BOOK forum?

Please!

No wonder you're lacking so much knowledge of DC comics or comics in general.

Martian Manhunter never displayed superspeed, super-strength, Martian Vision or invisibility in the cartoon.

I guess we can use that depiction as canon here right?

Oh and Flash never displayed any kinetic energy manipulation with the Speed Force.

I guess that's out too.

PLEASE....