Dr. Doom (amped) vs. Thanos

Originally posted by leonheartmm
just like beyonder was retconned into a cosmic cube. does that mean galactus being humbled by the beyonder was an illusion????? NO!
and please, youve lost the argument so badly that you claiming to rub anythign in any1's face at this point feals like the grumbling of a dying man.

so do i, and you must have been asleap for the past hour. it didnt happen on panel, but it was STATED to happen by the hulk on PANEL. he said "i wanna hear you scream". really, does any1 here beleive that blackbolt didnt scream against the hulk and got his ass handed to him without screaming???? dont be ridiculous quan.

I want to hear you scream doesn't translate into him screaming off panel. The blast was powerful enough to destroy RIsland. In the grand scheme of things not that powerful in any event.

You are in the wrong thread by the way. LOL.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
your contradicting yourself

No I'm not.

I already cleared up that point.

"Full acccess to" meaning he has the full ability to access the average display of power that Strange (the normal user) has shown in the past.

The question is, is three days long enough to attain it?

How am I contradicting myself?

In other words, he's not hindered by any PIS that might enable him to gain said powers.

^u just did
3 times

"full access" {nearly full power of aggomato outside his realm}

"access to the extant that strange has in the past" {to the amount that beings on the level of dormammu and shuma gorath can be hurt by it}

"is three days long enough to gain it" {this having nuthing to do with strange's acces of its power but being a wholly different scenario where the artifact is given to a newbie who has NO experience with it whatsoever and hence no initial amount of access to its power}

so instead of FULL access, or ACCESS AS MUCH AS THE WIELDER{which is based in the wielder's experience to begin with} you shud say, doom with three days experience with each artifact and nuthing more.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

so instead of FULL access, or ACCESS AS MUCH AS THE WIELDER{which is based in the wielder's experience to begin with} you shud say, doom with three days experience with each artifact and nuthing more.

The point of saying full access was to make it clear that Doom's ability to become proficient with these items would not be hindered by some stupid plot device such as the Eye would never answer to Doom, or he could never pick up Mjolnir.

Do you get me?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
doom with three days experience with each artifact and nuthing more.

If it makes it easier for you, then think of it that way.

My point was Doom, in comic book reality, would not be able to use or achieve a high level of mastery over most of these items because of the restrictions placed on them by higher beings.

"Full access to" was meant to imply there are no such restrictions.

Also technically, Doom having full access to the eye of Agamotto's power, doesn't mean the same thing as Doom has the full power of the eye of Agamotto.

You can have full acess to the IG, just as the chick in the Infinity Gauntlet had, but she couldn't achieve the level of mastery over it that Thanos did.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
just like beyonder was retconned into a cosmic cube. does that mean galactus being humbled by the beyonder was an illusion????? NO!
and please, youve lost the argument so badly that you claiming to rub anythign in any1's face at this point feals like the grumbling of a dying man.

so do i, and you must have been asleap for the past hour. it didnt happen on panel, but it was STATED to happen by the hulk on PANEL. he said "i wanna hear you scream". really, does any1 here beleive that blackbolt didnt scream against the hulk and got his ass handed to him without screaming???? dont be ridiculous quan.

It was a Skrull during World War Hulk. It was always meant to be a Skrull. There was no retcon.

The real Black Bolt, put Hulk down 4 times. Twice he put him down by simple opening his mouth and whispering so low it was inaudible, and he knocked Hulk out cold.

The Skrull Black Bolt, spoke, and all he did was blow away World War Hulk, and World War Hulk got right back up. The moment I read that, I knew it was either PIS, or something else was in play, as it was evidently not Black Bolt at the same levels as before. That was because he was intended to be a Skrull. It wasn't some half assed idea thrown in at the last minute.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Your misspellings and dancing around the issue is laughable.

I want to hear you scream doesn't translate into him screaming off panel. The blast was powerful enough to destroy RIsland. In the grand scheme of things not that powerful in any event.

You are in the wrong thread by the way. LOL.

your existance on kmc is laughable and more importantly, has been laughed AT, stop with the arrogance, its embarrising to witness at this point with your face in the proverbial mud.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
your existance on kmc is laughable and more importantly, has been laughed AT, stop with the arrogance, its embarrising to witness at this point with your face in the proverbial mud.

Thanos wins.

Ps. I knew you weren't going to list any impressive feats of anyone who you listed because it's quite clear you are a wikipedia guy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I see desperation has set in. You want to ignore the comics and focus on me as a poster. My point has been made and you are being mocked in all fronts and are clearly wrong. You aren't arguing based on your interpretation you are arguing against factual data.

Thanos wins.

Ps. I knew you weren't going to list any impressive feats of anyone who you listed because it's quite clear you are a wikipedia guy.

i see delusions have resurfaced.

if youd like me to, i can dispell this one right here. shud i put up the scans of the last hulk fight which you claimed i was reading from wiki to begin with??? lol, ur a ridiculously pathetic loser quan.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins.

I beg to differ.

Just because I was arguing some incorrect facts, doesn't mean I think Thanos wins.

Doom already has a vast amount of Mystical ability. Plus, he has plenty of knowledge concerning Mjolnir and Strange's artifacts. Give him three days to further increase his knowledge of both, and 2 Gl rings to amp his own shields and energy output, and I think he can beat Thanos.

Even for a majority.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i see delusions have resurfaced.

if youd like me to, i can dispell this one right here. shud i put up the scans of the last hulk fight which you claimed i was reading from wiki to begin with??? lol, ur a ridiculously pathetic loser quan.

I mean all you have proven is that you were completely confused about the events of ww hulk and secret invasion.

Doom

Originally posted by nimbus006
I beg to differ.

Just because I was arguing some incorrect facts, doesn't mean I think Thanos wins.

Doom already has a vast amount of Mystical ability. Plus, he has plenty of knowledge concerning Mjolnir and Strange's artifacts. Give him three days to further increase his knowledge of both, and 2 Gl rings to amp his own shields and energy output, and I think he can beat Thanos.

Even for a majority.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not a chance in hell. Thanos has taken on beings like Odin and tyrant. Doom would also be far less than Thor with the power gem yet Thanos defeated and hung with him easily.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not a chance in hell. Thanos has taken on beings like Odin and tyrant.

Thanos has taken them on, but he didn't beat them.

In fact, he was pretty much stomped by both.

Hell, I could take on Tito Ortiz, but he'd wup my ass.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not a chance in hell. Thanos has taken on beings like Odin and tyrant. Doom would also be far less than Thor with the power gem yet Thanos defeated and hung with him easily.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i see delusions have resurfaced.

Doom uses the GL rings to change his DNA into a Strontian's. End of Thanos. 🙁

Originally posted by nimbus006

Hell, I could take on Tito Ortiz, but he'd wup my ass.

Originally posted by Mindset
Why would Doom be far less than Thor with the power gem?

Originally posted by nimbus006
Thanos has taken them on, but he didn't beat them.

In fact, he was pretty much stomped by both.

Hell, I could take on Tito Ortiz, but he'd wup my ass.

Ortiz would submit you in moments while Odin never defeated Thanos. Thanos also beat the Silver Surfer almost to death with a few blows. Doom is getting his ass handed to him.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'd pay to see that. 🙂

You'd be disappointed. 😮