Superboy Prime vs. Flash (Bart Allen)

Started by kgkg9 pages

Other than how he got time manipulating powers nothing severely wrong with it. His characteristics matches quit well with Time Trappers past actions. It also explains why Time Trapper has been experimenting on Superman and kryptonians from different time line. Like Silver Age Superboy etc. It also explains his massive hared toward Superman.

Imo this is good shit.

Well your opinion is wrong.

As for this fight no Bart is not beating Prime. I don't see anyone under skyfather this guy at least without plot devices

Originally posted by Mindset
Well your opinion is wrong.
This was suppose to be a right or wrong question?

That should have been obvious.

So what's the right answer?

Whatever my answer is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has never done so before. The only time he did so was when his power was ridiculously amped.

The problem is we have never seen Superman do it. You keep speculating. Speculation isn't proof.

I'd like to see the explosion nail him like it did with Henshaw and Am. It didn't and speculating about it is getting old.

Are you actually saying that Prime lacks the ability to destroy a planet even though it's clear New Earth Superman can do so, and Prime is so much beyond him and he has tossed planets around like chest pieces to the point he changed the center of the Multiverse?

facepalm

Thanos can't beat Quicksilver. You know why? He has never done so on panel, and saying he would is speculation and speculation isn't proof. dur

It's clear that Prime gets tossed directly at the planet right before the Green Lantern's set up their Force Field. After they set up their Force Field no one breaks through it, and it doesn't get dropped until after the explosion and that's exactly when we see Prime. Only after it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It just...directly contradicts what has already been stated on panel.

I wouldn't mind it if they hadn't already revealed who Time Trapper actually was before now.

That's dc for ya. And they wonder why marvel is numero uno......damn didio.
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
...What?
What are you confused about?
Originally posted by xJLxKing
He was hitting the cells out of Prime but they don't damage him.
I don't think this flash can beat him or ko him. But he more than clealry showed how much faster he was than Prime. He was running circles around him.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Are you actually saying that Prime lacks the ability to destroy a planet even though it's clear New Earth Superman can do so, and Prime is so much beyond him and he has tossed planets around like chest pieces to the point he changed the center of the Multiverse?

facepalm

Thanos can't beat Quicksilver. You know why? He has never done so on panel, and saying he would is speculation and speculation isn't proof. dur

It's clear that Prime gets tossed directly at the planet right before the Green Lantern's set up their Force Field. After they set up their Force Field no one breaks through it, and it doesn't get dropped until after the explosion and that's exactly when we see Prime. Only after it.

I never said he lacks the power. I have simply said he won't do something he has never done in a comic to win on this board.

Thanos can use methods he has previously used. He can erect shields, forceblock, mindrape, blast, etc. Thanos won't do something he has never done on panel and you won't see me argue for something I just make up.

That is the difference. Quit obsessing on whether he can do it or not. Prime has never wrecked a planet with his fists so that dismisses it as a viable option on this board. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said he lacks the power. I have simply said he won't do something he has never done in a comic to win on this board.

Silver Surfer, has never used Red Solar Energy to win a fight as I recall, but since he hasn't we assume he won't to win if he say, faces someone like Superman?

It's faulty logic. It's within his power, and CIS isn't stopping him so it's a valid option.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos can use methods he has previously used. He can erect shields, forceblock, mindrape, blast, etc. Thanos won't do something he has never done on panel and you won't see me argue for something I just make up.

Make up what?

Is it lack of power? No.

Is it lack of blood lust? No.

So can he do it? Yes.

What's stopping him to do in a fight if he has no other option? Nothing.

It's not that Prime, can't or won't do it, so it's still an option. Hell, I never even said Prime will destroy the planet to win. I just find it silly, if someone says we cannot use it as an option.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That is the difference. Quit obsessing on whether he can do it or not. Prime has never wrecked a planet with his fists so that dismisses it as a viable option on this board. 🙂

Exactly what stops him from destroying the planet?

Why can't/won't he do it?

We both know his a sadistic bastard who would kill, and we both know he has the power. So what prevents us from using it as an option.

The best you can say, is that it isn't a likely possibility. You can't dismiss the possibility all together.

Originally posted by kgkg
Other than how he got time manipulating powers nothing severely wrong with it. His characteristics matches quit well with Time Trappers past actions. It also explains why Time Trapper has been experimenting on Superman and kryptonians from different time line. Like Silver Age Superboy etc. It also explains his massive hared toward Superman.

Imo this is good shit.

I agree. Though I am quite curious as to how DC will explain those pesky temporal powers? hmm

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On another note, aside from the the fact the Prime was more than likely not at full power (to to the happenings of the prior issue) - he was obviously having problems with Bart due mostly to his preexisting fear of the Flash family in general (hence the stuttering when he was engaging them.) Point being; that mental edge doesn't exist in this thread.

Prime ftw.

Like Quan thinking Thanos beats Odin isn't pure speculation the Bias i tell you 😱

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think this flash can beat him or ko him. But he more than clealry showed how much faster he was than Prime. He was running circles around him.

Well he was weakened. Darkness, Red Sun..etc

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Silver Surfer, has never used Red Solar Energy to win a fight as I recall, but since he hasn't we assume he won't to win if he say, faces someone like Superman?

It's faulty logic. It's within his power, and CIS isn't stopping him so it's a valid option.

Make up what?

Is it lack of power? No.

Is it lack of blood lust? No.

So can he do it? Yes.

What's stopping him to do in a fight if he has no other option? Nothing.

It's not that Prime, can't or won't do it, so it's still an option. Hell, I never even said Prime will destroy the planet to win. I just find it silly, if someone says we cannot use it as an option.

Exactly what stops him from destroying the planet?

Why can't/won't he do it?

We both know his a sadistic bastard who would kill, and we both know he has the power. So what prevents us from using it as an option.

The best you can say, is that it isn't a likely possibility. You can't dismiss the possibility all together.

Surfer has capitalized on a weakness and has the ability to do so.

There are unknown variables. How many punches etc. Why hasn't he done it yet? Why didn't he just wreck the planet before with his fists when he was getting attacked?

I keep repeating myself because you don't get it. We don't make up feats and treat them as factual evidence based upon your annoying assessments and abc logic.

It isn't in character for Prime to do so. I have more than explained this to you. Your inability to comprehend this is astounding.

The reason he doesn't do it because he has never done so before on panel with his fists. We don't make up feats, brah.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Like Quan thinking Thanos beats Odin isn't pure speculation the Bias i tell you 😱
It's my opinion if they would fight again. It's speculation who would have won their first fight either way.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Well he was weakened. Darkness, Red Sun..etc
No, he just couldn't keep up. Flat out he is slower than the flash. This issue proved it. I see why he fears them.

Originally posted by Galan007
I agree. Though I am quite curious as to how DC will explain those pesky temporal powers? hmm

But, do you remember in the Legion of Super Heroes issues leading up to Zero Hour someone else was revealed to be the Time Trapper? It was Garth or...someone else. A Daxamite, I think. Legion member.

Now they've got Prime playing the role? How? He retcon punched himself? lol

It also makes zero sense why he would be powerful as the Time Trapper. Who, as we know, lives at the end of time, near Entropy. There's no sun there. Pretty much total darkness. Nothing for Prime to recharge his cells with.

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B No, he just couldn't keep up. Flat out he is slower than the flash. This issue proved it. I see why he fears them. [/B]

He got hit by Red Solar Radiation a few times. He also got hit by darkness which sapped him of more power.

Also, He isn't scared of speedsters because of there speed, but the speed force itself. This is why he is especially scared of Bart. Bart is the reason he was trapped in the SF.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He got hit by Red Solar Radiation a few times. He also got hit by darkness which sapped him of more power.

Also, He isn't scared of speedsters because of there speed, but the speed force itself. This is why he is especially scared of Bart. Bart is the reason he was trapped in the SF.

He also got hit in his solo issue in sc. Nothing in the issue claimed he was weakened so therefore it is erroneous o fyou to assume so.

They get their speed from the speed force..... 😐 😐 😐 😐

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer has capitalized on a weakness and has the ability to do so.

There are unknown variables. How many punches etc. Why hasn't he done it yet? Why didn't he just wreck the planet before with his fists when he was getting attacked?

I keep repeating myself because you don't get it. We don't make up feats and treat them as factual evidence based upon your annoying assessments and abc logic.

It isn't in character for Prime to do so. I have more than explained this to you. Your inability to comprehend this is astounding.

The reason he doesn't do it because he has never done so before on panel with his fists. We don't make up feats, brah.

facepalm

I concede. I can't argue with Quan logic.

He can't even accept that Prime destroying the planet, is an option. An unlikely option but an option still. He doesn't lack the power and CIS isn't stopping him.

I never even said he would destroy the planet, just that him destroying the planet is a possibility that is open to someone of his level of power.

Apparently, since he hasn't destroyed Earth, he can't do it here.

Primme re-arranged the entire Multiverse center. Guess how he did that?