Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
zoom wins, the only way silver surfer is faster is when he goes warp speed in space, and thats in a straight line or so, he cant to those zig zag turns like flash and zom does
Straight line - yes
zigzag - yes
turns like _F & Z_ - yes
Conclusion: Surfer can fight @ or > than light speed..... lols
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Surfer wouldn't even begin to compete with Zoom in speed.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
It matters not. They were locked in the time because of how fast they were going.
This is an unquantifiable feat. Thus cannot be used for this kind of debate. It's kinda like saying Thor and Hercules' punches shook reality (w/c cannot be used for a punching feat). This kind of argumentation CANNOT be used in debates where there is a clear and measurable condition that needs to be met.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Not sure what leads you to that conclusion when both can time travel under their own power and Surfer has continuously shown he is thousands, if not millions of times faster than light speed. Moreover, the race is five lightyears long. You think Zoom's got the stamina to compete over that length? Surfer would take a few minutes to cover that distance, maximum.
5 seconds tops actually. 😛 SS travels light years in seconds.
Originally posted by LunacydeBut it does address the fact that what Flash can do =/= what SS can, which if you didn't notice, was the point of my post.
Well obviously, but that doesn't address who actually win this race. No matter how fast Surfer can go, Zoom can go faster because of his Time manipulation abilities.
SS has time manipulation powers.
Originally posted by Mindset
But it does address the fact that what Flash can do =/= what SS can, which if you didn't notice, was the point of my post.SS has time manipulation powers.
I know, I dig what you are saying, I wasn't sure if that was your entire argument or you were simply addressing one specific part of someone else's argument. Now that it's cleared up I totally agree.
Also I know SS has time manip., but I have never seen it used as effectively as Zoom. Zoom can slow time down to the point it's barely moving if moving at all, effectively moving so fast someone who moves hundreds of times the speed of life could barely see him/react to him.
welcome lunacyde.. you still posting at comicvine?
anyways SS when he fought the agent of oblivion circled his opponent at above light speed and was dodging skurges attacks. i think that is his name.
also zoom can slow down time to a near crawl SS will soon be able to see and interact with him once he adjust to the time frame since his mind is able to calculate and analyze information at a space of a nanosecond and i am sure he also has the hyperbole narration of the space in between a second or some such..
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
welcome lunacyde.. you still posting at comicvine?anyways SS when he fought the agent of oblivion circled his opponent at above light speed and was dodging skurges attacks. i think that is his name.
also zoom can slow down time to a near crawl SS will soon be able to see and interact with him once he adjust to the time frame since his mind is able to calculate and analyze information at a space of a nanosecond and i am sure he also has the hyperbole narration of the space in between a second or some such..
Yes, there's plenty of idiots running around as always, however i have a number of very good friends there and I enjoy the core of the site. Did I know you? lol I actually decided to make an account after seeing the little CV bashing thread someone made.
Anyways, I am not really sure how their powers would interact(being that I am woefully short on Surfer knowledge), so I don't really want to make too many broad sweeping claims.
In my opinion Zoom will start out in the lead, at this point a nanosecond has probably transpired, from this point I really don't know if Surfer can react or not.
you mean this type of member bashing its the only time we say or do anything b/c we ourselves would get banned from here as well if we started talking smack about other sites like this guy does on a regular in threads. any ways this dude has various post under different accounts.
but, anyways moving on. i really dont have much to say about this thread and zoom or SS.