Agent Orange Gaunlet

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Originally posted by Enyalus
A thousand years into the future....

...But, win anyway. 'Cause its you.

I was referring to Pre-Crisis Controllers. Yeah, I guess Post Crisis isn't til the future, but it's not the first time the Controllers have created tech like that. They're known for it.

If they have the power to contain many, many Sun-Eaters, I say they're impressive. And seeing AO tear through them like paper is more powerful than anything Surfer or Thor has done. To my knowledge.

Originally posted by cloud102
If they have the power to contain many, many Sun-Eaters, I say they're impressive. And seeing AO tear through them like paper is more powerful than anything Surfer or Thor has done. To my knowledge.

Thor has prevented omniversal destruction by sheer strength and willpower. biscuits

Then he really is Parallax level! 😉

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thor has prevented omniversal destruction by sheer strength and willpower. biscuits

👆

I still don't see Surfer or Thor defeating an entire corps, though. AO can possibly take them ALL on at the same time.

Originally posted by cloud102
I still don't see Surfer or Thor defeating an entire corps, though. AO can possibly take them ALL on at the same time.

While I agree...

Thanos still mindrapes him FTW. uhuh

Where was it stated that they can absorb anything and everything? Just because they can absorb anything a Green Lantern throws at them through energy constructs doesn't mean, they can literally absorb all energy such as the Power Cosmic, magic etc.

What haven't they absorb?

It might have a minor personality but it's still an energy construct made of well, energy. That's why they were fading in and out as if they weren't really real.

Don't you think that the rings are the reason why they are alive?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
What haven't they absorb?

The question is what have they absorbed besides Oan/Green Lantern energy.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Don't you think that the rings are the reason why they are alive?

What do you mean by this?

Are you saying that just because they have rings, the energy constructs are alive?

It was stated very clearly, that this energy constructs, constantly fade in and out as if they weren't real, and that's because they aren't. They aren't actually alive.

The question is what have they absorbed besides Oan/Green Lantern energy.

They absorbed constructs which can like real things
What do you mean by this? Are you saying that just because they have rings, the energy constructs are alive? It was stated very clearly, that this energy constructs, constantly fade in and out as if they weren't real, and that's because they aren't. They aren't actually alive.

They are real. They move, scream, talk, have emotions/greed.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
They absorbed constructs which can like real things

Ummm what?

First of all I don't get what you're saying and from what understanding I've got from this statement, this has nothing to do at all with what we are talking about.

They absorbed Green Lantern constructs which can be like real things?

How does that have anything to do with them being able to absorb any time of energy?

It was made pretty clear that they can't absorb all times of energy.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
They are real. They move, scream, talk, have emotions/greed.

Dude, they clearly are not "real". This was made evidently clear in "Green Lantern #40 and Green Lantern #41".

They are simply energy constructs. Sophisticated energy constructs albeit but still energy constructs. Do you want me to post scans? That's why the fade in and out as if they aren't real, because they aren't, and that's why the don't give off any life readings etc. Hal Jordan can create constructs that can move, doesn't mean they are real. They don't have emotions, they simulate emotions in the form of greed.

I assume you've read the issues in question, so I cannot see how you can with a straight face, debate that these energy constructs are real. You're just being silly.

They're real enough. Going toe to toe with multiple GL's.

Doesn't matter really, we saw that Thor was capable absorbing Marvel presence. Any energy-being. So regardless of sentience or not, Thor CAN absorb these guys. Surfer or Thanos however are still unknown.

Larfleeze's sovereignity should easily be able to override that or resist it though. This is avarice, he is the avatar of greed, nobody's going to be able to freaking STEAL or absorb his corps. People are also ignoring the immense changes Larfleeze could have on someone's personality. Not even Kyle Rayner could withstand Parallax' influence at the start.

Originally posted by cloud102
They're real enough. Going toe to toe with multiple GL's.

Still energy constructs, meaning that with Mjolnir in hand, Thor can absorb them. Agent Orange isn't beating Thor with those energy constructs intended to be his Corps in my opinion.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Still energy constructs, meaning that with Mjolnir in hand, Thor can absorb them. Agent Orange isn't beating Thor with those energy constructs intended to be his Corps in my opinion.

GL's can also absorb mass amounts of energy. Even magic. I wonder how they'll do against Orange Energy?

Originally posted by cloud102
GL's can also absorb mass amounts of energy. Even magic. I wonder how they'll do against Orange Energy?

I've yet to see Green Lantern's absorb and contain the level of energy Thor has shown to be capable of doing. Don't compare them to Thor.

Also, I don't recall the Green Lanterns resorting to absorbing energy in the fight. As I recall, they kept on blasting the constructs, and using energy attacks, that kept on being absorbed.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I've yet to see Green Lantern's absorb and contain the level of energy Thor has shown to be capable of doing. Don't compare them to Thor.

Also, I don't recall the Green Lanterns resorting to absorbing energy in the fight. As I recall, they kept on blasting the constructs, and using energy attacks, that kept on being absorbed.

There are plenty examples in the GLC respect thread of GL's absorbing and redirecting energy.

Never said they did this to the Orange Lanterns, just that they could as well. Check out Rebirth when they absorbed Parallax's entity fear energy.

Originally posted by cloud102
There are plenty examples in the GLC respect thread of GL's absorbing and redirecting energy.

I never said that they don't or can't absorb and redirect energy. I said that I've never seen them absorb, redirect, contain energy on the level Thor has.

Originally posted by cloud102
Never said they did this to the Orange Lanterns, just that they could as well. Check out Rebirth when they absorbed Parallax's entity fear energy.

I never said, that you said, that they never used that tactic on the Orange Lanterns.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I never said that they don't or can't absorb and redirect energy. I said that I've never seen them absorb, redirect, contain energy on the level Thor has.

I never said, that you said, that they never used that tactic on the Orange Lanterns.

Gotcha, but has an experienced GL shown limits on how much energy they can absorb?

Originally posted by cloud102
Gotcha, but has an experienced GL shown limits on how much energy they can absorb?

I'm not to sure. I could dig but I'm to lazy, but off the top of my head, I know that a Green Lantern Ring has shown limits in other situations.

Ummm what? First of all I don't get what you're saying and from what understanding I've got from this statement, this has nothing to do at all with what we are talking about. They absorbed Green Lantern constructs which can be like real things? How does that have anything to do with them being able to absorb any time of energy? It was made pretty clear that they can't absorb all times of energy.

How is it clear that they can't absorb all times of energy. If anything it it's the opposite.

Dude, they clearly are not "real". This was made evidently clear in "Green Lantern #40 and Green Lantern #41". They are simply energy constructs. Sophisticated energy constructs albeit but still energy constructs. Do you want me to post scans? That's why the fade in and out as if they aren't real, because they aren't, and that's why the don't give off any life readings etc. Hal Jordan can create constructs that can move, doesn't mean they are real. They don't have emotions, they simulate emotions in the form of greed. I assume you've read the issues in question, so I cannot see how you can with a straight face, debate that these energy constructs are real. You're just being silly.

Since when can constructs talk, think, and move independently. It's energy that creates them. Even the guardians refer to them as orange lanterns. They disappear and appear because Agent Orange does so