Originally posted by OneDumbG0The only difference is that Mike Tyson was completely serious about that type of shit...
^ Jokin around does not necessarily mean he is holding back. Mike Tyson could be sparring with a bunch of amateurs and cracking wise about fornicating with their mommas but still trying to crush their skulls.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0So, Prime ripped people in half by accident, yet there's not a single instance where he's holding back?
^ And Superman Prime has never evidenced a single instance where he was holding back. Even when he didn't mean to hurt people, he ripped people in half by accident in Infinite Crisis. Which is what Superman would do without any self-control or if he were to not hold back.
Also, I never said Prime holds back either, I just said he doesn't go all out. He doesn't pull punches, but that doesn't mean he's outright going all out either.
^ Exactly. Because he didn't mean to kill people but since he wasn't holding back, his strength unintentionally ripped people apart. An accident.
That's your assertion. But I think it's easily more arguable that he is going all-out all the time. If you're arguing he has never ever gone all-out, well... it's hard to prove a negative. But as far as I've seen, he's had more than enough reason in a lot of his fights to exert his full power. And I don't see a noticeable difference between Superman Prime's attitude when he fights against Supermen 1+2, the GL Corps, the Justice League/Society/Titans, Sodam Yat Ion, Anti-Monitor, the Sinestro Corps, Monarch, or the Legion of Super-Heroes.
If you think he's never had to exert his full power, well... that's your opinion. I think he's had to in more than a few occasions. But even in situations where he doesn't, he lets loose. Which is the reason for the violent and catastrophic consequences of his melees.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Or because he was holding back, and is that powerful.
^ Exactly. Because he didn't mean to kill people but since he wasn't holding back, his strength unintentionally ripped people apart. An accident.That's your assertion. But I think it's easily more arguable that he is going all-out all the time. If you're arguing he has never ever gone all-out, well... it's hard to prove a negative. But as far as I've seen, he's had more than enough reason in a lot of his fights to exert his full power. And I don't see a noticeable difference between Superman Prime's attitude when he fights against Supermen 1+2, the GL Corps, the Justice League/Society/Titans, Sodam Yat Ion, Anti-Monitor, the Sinestro Corps, Monarch, or the Legion of Super-Heroes.
If you think he's never had to exert his full power, well... that's your opinion. I think he's had to in more than a few occasions. But even in situations where he doesn't, he lets loose. Which is the reason for the violent and catastrophic consequences of his melees.
He got angrier in his fight with Monarch.
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Supes? Hurt Prime? He's never been able to do more than piss Prime off when Prime is at full strength.
And Prime does not hold back, but there is a difference between not holding back, and psychotic rage. Energy manipulation is nice, but they don't have the ability to fight him head on. And unless they spam throwing red suns at him, he's not going to run out of gas. He can literally one shot any of them with his attacks.
Prime takes this due to simply outclassing his opponents.
Originally posted by CharmanderShow me an instance or a situation that suggests he is holding back and I might be convinced.
Or because he was holding back, and is that powerful.He got angrier in his fight with Monarch.
Because he was losing. That didn't result in him unleashing a heretofore unseen potential in power. In fact, it was obvious he was getting gradually weaker the entire time. Which suggests he was going all out the entire time as usually when people who hold back stop holding back, they exhibit more power.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Supes? Hurt Prime? He's never been able to do more than piss Prime off when Prime is at full strength.And Prime does not hold back, but there is a difference between not holding back, and psychotic rage. Energy manipulation is nice, but they don't have the ability to fight him head on. And unless they spam throwing red suns at him, he's not going to run out of gas. He can literally one shot any of them with his attacks.
Prime takes this due to simply outclassing his opponents.
Actually, Superman, as well as several weaker characters, are able to still hurt Prime. Case in point, Conner Kent, who is many notches below Prime, was still able to cause physical damage to him (ie. busting his lip open). Flash caused physical damage to Prime as well. The team may not be able kill Prime (what can?), but they can hurt him.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Supes? Hurt Prime? He's never been able to do more than piss Prime off when Prime is at full strength.And Prime does not hold back, but there is a difference between not holding back, and psychotic rage. Energy manipulation is nice, but they don't have the ability to fight him head on. And unless they spam throwing red suns at him, he's not going to run out of gas. He can literally one shot any of them with his attacks.
Prime takes this due to simply outclassing his opponents.
Prime aint one shotting noone on this team.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He can literally one shot any of them with his attacks.
Like he one-shot Black Adam? Or Supes? Or Yat? Or Superboy? Etc. Please.
Quasar hits him with 150 megatons worth of red sun radiation, Blackbolt screws with the electrons in his brain, Thor and Superman beat the shit outta him and use Sentry as a punching shield for themselves.
Team takes this.