Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk's skin is only cuttable by adamantiun blades with super-razor keen edges (like logan's), his insides are also very durable. (physical objects)originally, hulk was immune to those claws, then for quite awhile they were the only things that could cut him successfully, but in wwh logan even stated that he was harder to cut. his durability was amped in that arc.
all that brings me to my point that hulk is too durable to die by shadowcat's phasing since it won't work on super dense materials in the realm of adamantium. hulk's durability is below that substance but apparently not by very much. (allows him to be cut, but it won't last long)
her phasing works by aligning the molecules of an object so they pass by the molecules of another object, and density is the proximity of molecules to each other, so no matter how they are aligned, his molecules make it to difficult to phase successfully.and that's not even taking into account his insane ability to heal.
next.
Hulk's durability is just below the substance of adamantium?
What the hell kind of Hulk comics have you been reading? Are you sure we are talking about 616 Hulk?
The Thing with a single punched turned him into a mess, so did She-Hulk. He bleed non stop for like 3 pages from a single hit. He was black and blue that entire arc. He isn't right below adamantium durability wise. That's just ridiculous.
Hulk isn't incredibly durable. He isn't impressive at all in that category. When the army used Adamantium against the Hulk, it went through him like confetti. He looked like a pin cusion.
How can Hulk be immune to the claws?
It's not them, it's just that in the beginning Hulk was considered superhuman durable more than a fast healer and Logan couldn't cut him. Not strong enough, that's all. Later on he became more of a fast healer than super durable. His been cut, punched etc. multiple times where he has bleed.
You're reasoning is flawed.
Dude, durability doesn't really matter, against what Shadowcat does. If she phased him into the ground, and then made him solid, he would have bonded on a molecular level. If she phases his head into the ground, and lets go, he would die. It's like decapitation, except there wouldn't be a head left.
You're argument is based on Adamantium and Hulk's durability which in itself is flawed.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusgranted i went too far lol nosweatbut it still stands that he is too durable for her power to kill him outright.
Hulk's durability is just below the substance of adamantium?What the hell kind of Hulk comics have you been reading? Are you sure we are talking about 616 Hulk?
The Thing with a single punched turned him into a mess, so did She-Hulk. He bleed non stop for like 3 pages from a single hit. He was black and blue that entire arc. He isn't right below adamantium durability wise. That's just ridiculous.
Hulk isn't incredibly durable. He isn't impressive at all in that category. When the army used Adamantium against the Hulk, it went through him like confetti. He looked like a pin cusion.
How can Hulk be immune to the claws?
It's not them, it's just that in the beginning Hulk was considered superhuman durable more than a fast healer and Logan couldn't cut him. Not strong enough, that's all. Later on he became more of a fast healer than super durable. His been cut, punched etc. multiple times where he has bleed.
You're reasoning is flawed.
Dude, durability doesn't really matter, against what Shadowcat does. If she phased him into the ground, and then made him solid, he would have bonded on a molecular level. If she phases his head into the ground, and lets go, he would die. It's like decapitation, except there wouldn't be a head left.
You're argument is based on Adamantium and Hulk's durability which in itself is flawed.
his body was partially damaged when she had a clear shot on him. he and the ground were not bonded on a molecular level totally, just partially since his durability was to great too integrate fully with the cement. he frickin walked out of the floor.
it's the same reason nightcrawler previously restrained himself from porting somewhere he could not see. if he materialized into anything with a density greater than air, he would lose a limb or his life if it was his whole body. his body is far more vulnerable to that sort of harm than king hulk's is in that regard.
and he's taken nukes before and blows from mjolnir, he has durability.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
granted i went to far lol but it still stands that he is too durable for her power to kill him outright.
I agree you did go to far. You ever do it again, and I'm coming for you. uhuh
Like I said, Hulk isn't anything impressive durability wise currently. He is more of a fast healer than a super durable character. Also, durability doesn't really matter in this case. Her phasing him into the ground and how successful it is, doesn't depend on how much damage he can sustain without bleeding etc.
His durability doesn't really matter. It's bonding on a completely molecular level.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
his body was partially damaged when she had a clear shot on him. he and the ground were not bonded on a molecular level totally, just partially since his durability was to great to integrate fully with the cement. he frickin walked out of the floor.
Like I said, it didn't make any sense like a lot of things in that arc. Hence why a great deal of people regard World War Hulk as PIS ridden through and through.
If she phased his arms into the ground, he should have regrown new ones. Ripping them out of the ground with little pieces of rock stuck to them?
What the hell?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
it's the same reason nightcrawler previously restrained himself from porting somewhere he could not see. if he materialized into anything with a density greater than air, he would lose a limb or his life if it was his whole body. his body is far more vulnerable to that sort of harm than king hulk's is in that regard.
Nightcrawler didn't like porting into somewhere he couldn't see because he could accidentally port into a wall etc. and die. If he ported into something like water, etc. it would be fine. If he ported into a wall he would die.
Faulty comparison.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusking hulk was not the same hulk of old.
If she phased his arms into the ground, he should have regrown new ones. Ripping them out of the ground with little pieces of rock stuck to them?What the hell?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympushow is that a faulty comparison? kurt's porting displaces atmosphere (gas) creating a vacuum, that's why in his wake a bit of gas follows him creating the trademark "bamf". he can't however displace more solid matter, that includes water (unless his teleporting upgraded or something). he will die if he emerges in another object be it solid or a large volume of liquid. (water vapor doesn't count since it will be displaced)
Nightcrawler didn't like porting into somewhere he couldn't see because he could accidentally port into a wall etc. and die. If he ported into something like water, etc. it would be fine. If he ported into a wall he would die.Faulty comparison.
if he was as durable as the hulk, a lot of previously deadly situations regarding teleporting would be gone.