Originally posted by quanchi112
You do realize this is coie and not sc right?
Yes begin and end creation (genesis box), space/time (worlogog), abstract non corporeal weapon capable of becoming anything (Gwydion).
EDIT: Non of these weapons existed in DC during the first crisis, so I don't know how you can make an argument based on what DS said. Yes Spectre harnessed all the magical power available after Am's onslaught to damage AM's armor.
Manip'ing the genesis box and using Gywdion could achieve the same thing to AM's armor, the worlogog governs the rules of time and space, it has all the buttons (I don't see how someone using it can't match AM).
Gywdion can become magical power, or whatever is required to boost the NG's attacking AM. Using the artifacts should give them a win.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If the Spectre amped wasn't enough with his creation blast I fail to see how this does any better.
The Genesis box can recreate the universe too. AM did get weakened/damage after Spectre used the remaining magical power to blast AM and Supes, DS et al essentially killed AM after that (at least his body), without any super weapons.
If we go by statements Gywdion and the Genesis box can do the same (one has already saved the universe).
The worlogog gives its wielder the power to manip all space and time, given that it possess all the gears necessary to control space-time.
Originally posted by AllanklesThe genesis box was used in one story to reset things. Ds was involved in the Am affair and he chipped in with new god tech. I know we are using later stories and comparing them to the Am.
The Genesis box can recreate the universe too. AM did get weakened/damage after Spectre used the remaining magical power to blast AM and Supes, DS et al essentially killed AM after that (at least his body), without any super weapons.If we go by statements Gywdion and the Genesis box can do the same (one has already saved the universe).
The worlogog gives its wielder the power to manip all space and time, given that it possess all the gears necessary to control space-time.
Nothing I have seen from the new gods has been greater than the Spectre and his creation blast. Nothing.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestThe ig is definitely much greater than anything the Am can bring to the table.
Allankles: For the record, against a lesser opponent, like the IG, what you say would probably be enough. But not the Anti-Monitor. Infinite multiverses is a lot of power to overcome.Quan: Oh sure, now the blast is enough. But you still won't give AM the win over the IG, Thanos, or MJJ. 👇
The blast is enough when discussing new gods tech, but don't try to compare it to the ig. That Spectre would lose every single time.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The ig is definitely much greater than anything the Am can bring to the table.The blast is enough when discussing new gods tech, but don't try to compare it to the ig. That Spectre would lose every single time.
^ Exactly why your opinion is worthless and indeed, grains of sand have more cohesion and reason for existence than your patheic excuse for a brain. doped
GTFO the forums. Your trash is not wanted here. 👇
Originally posted by TricksterPriestTrick, I don't want to sound harsh here, but I think it's necessary. You might be the most harmless poster on here. You have shown virtually no improvement in over 2 years.
^ Exactly why your opinion is worthless and indeed, grains of sand have more cohesion and reason for existence than your patheic excuse for a brain. dopedGTFO the forums. Your trash is not wanted here. 👇
You make baseless statements that get torn apart over and over again. No one fears an actual rebuttal or anything respectable from you at all concerning any characters.
You make statements like Superman is too much for any Hulk and
anyone who disagrees is biased. You are the epitome of the example they use in the rules of how not to debate.
Kindly respond to my posts or please just be still and silent. When you have an actual rebuttal to a post of mine feel free to chime in, but it's you that stinks up the board with your fanboyism.
Originally posted by Galan007
No NG has ever displayed (on panel) power remotely close to what Spectre's was during COIE... Nor have any of their gizmos.
Merlin's Sprite?
Zor (Who matched Pre-Crisis Spectre, I have heard lower class Imp LEVEL here)
Worlogog
ALE
Genesis Box
You don't think this could work if they combined all this power? I think they can pull it off.