King Thor VS Silver Surfer (Exiles) & SBP (Guardian Amp)

Originally posted by xJLxKing
That's not how it works. Prime survived but was KOed, and he is much more durable then Thor because he survived it. You have have to try and prove that Thor can survive it.

The monitor survived because of his shield/force field which Thor can't use.

Again you are assuming that just because SMP survived it that Thor would also survive it. Obviously, that is not the case. If it was Odin, Shazam, Zues would all survive it.

Thor doesn't need to as Prime iyo survived it.

There is no proof he wouldn't and with the amount of energy that the hammer can absorb he could also try that approach while the chain reaction hits other areas of the universe.

Thor survives it imo.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Monitor survived with a force field of strength which Thor cannot replicate, and even though SMP is not a Skyfather due to his lack of versatility, in terms of physical ability he is Skyfather level.

It annihilated a universe. Don't be stupid.

As for BFRing Prime to another dimension...Yeah, that'll work on the being who was traversing the Multiverse at will and punched his way into the Fifth Dimension.

Prime wins, I do not personally believe KT can put Prime down before being KOed.

It annihilated top tiers and planets in a universe save Prime according to some and a Monitor and another shield.

There is no evidence whatsoever it kills Thor. You can speculate all day till your blue in the face as I have given my opinion and backed it up.

Prime was bfr'd in sc by a guardian. He didn't come back. 🙂

Thor can bfr him.

Thor has a hammer that can absorb some of the force that would directly be hitting him. The blast also failed to kill two below skyfather level characters. It didn't kill anyone on his level so I see no reason why Thor couldn't also survive it.

Superman P survived the blast, so his durability is beyond Thor's. When it comes to Speed, pure strenght, durability, Primes is way above Thor's. The proof is right in front of you. He can break through dimensions. Survive universal explosion, and out run flashes. Prove Thor can do any of that. YOU CAN'T!!

It annihilated top tiers and planets in a universe save Prime according to some and a Monitor and another shield.

There is no evidence whatsoever it kills Thor. You can speculate all day till your blue in the face as I have given my opinion and backed it up.

Prime was bfr'd in sc by a guardian. He didn't come back. smile Thor can bfr him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has a hammer that can absorb some of the force that would directly be hitting him. The blast also failed to kill two below skyfather level characters. It didn't kill anyone on his level so I see no reason why Thor couldn't also survive it.

It annihilated top tiers and planets in a universe save Prime according to some and a Monitor and another shield.

There is no evidence whatsoever it kills Thor. You can speculate all day till your blue in the face as I have given my opinion and backed it up.

Prime was bfr'd in sc by a guardian. He didn't come back. 🙂

Thor can bfr him.

2. Good feat for them. Not a feat for Thor. Sorry, but your shitty uses of A>B>C logic is not going to fly here.

3. Backed it up with what? "Oh, they're under Thor's levelz, so he can survive t3h universal expwosion!" Shit logic. Just because they have a feat, and Thor is "above" them(and he is not above Guardian Amped Prime), doesn't me he can perform the same feat. I know you're not exactly the brightest bulb in the shed, but bear with me. Two characters have a durability feat(although one was with shields) above anything Thor has ever shown. Why assume he can survive the same? There is no reason to assume he can. You are using a shoddy example of A>B>C logic to strengthen your argument.

4. He wasn't Guardian Amped now was he?

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Because he never has survived something nearly as poweful maybe? And Prime is more durable than Thor, that feat proves that, as does his surviving of the galaxy destroying blast in SC.

2. Good feat for them. Not a feat for Thor. Sorry, but your shitty uses of A>B>C logic is not going to fly here.

3. Backed it up with what? "Oh, they're under Thor's levelz, so he can survive t3h universal expwosion!" Shit logic. Just because they have a feat, and Thor is "above" them(and he is not above Guardian Amped Prime), doesn't me he can perform the same feat. I know you're not exactly the brightest bulb in the shed, but bear with me. Two characters have a durability feat(although one was with shields) above anything Thor has ever shown. Why assume he can survive the same? There is no reason to assume he can. You are using a shoddy example of A>B>C logic to strengthen your argument.

4. He wasn't Guardian Amped now was he?

Originally posted by iceman24567
I been saying this for the last several pages Quan doesnt care about facts only his opinion you're wasting you're time.

I still find it funny how he tries to use the A>B>C. The thing is he knows it's wrong.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Prove that he can survive it. You don't make sense. Monitors have a force field/shield to protect them. They are also if not as powerful as anyone else. They were able to kill a flash by touching him. One even commented that a GL ring which is considered the most powerful weapon is but a TOY to them.

Superman P survived the blast, so his durability is beyond Thor's. When it comes to Speed, pure strenght, durability, Primes is way above Thor's. The proof is right in front of you. He can break through dimensions. Survive universal explosion, and out run flashes. Prove Thor can do any of that. YOU CAN'T!!

A monitor can see everything in a universe. He was the one in charge of watching the universe. He knew no one survived it by him and Prime.

It's up to you to prove that he survive it. If you use stupid assumptions like Prime survived it, then it works against YOU not for you.

Except we saw him busting through the universe they were nothing.

I disagree and it's not fact that he survived it. It's just iyo. Prime doesn't use his speed against a non speedster. I also think it's speculation to assume he is stronger. Thor is by far more powerful and more versatile.

The Monitor never claimed that Prime survived so you just committed a double standard. He commented that one thing survived and made no mention of Prime. 😛

There is no proof this blast can take out anyone above top tier. I think it would but King Thor, no way!!!

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. Because he never has survived something nearly as poweful maybe? And Prime is more durable than Thor, that feat proves that, as does his surviving of the galaxy destroying blast in SC.

2. Good feat for them. Not a feat for Thor. Sorry, but your shitty uses of A>B>C logic is not going to fly here.

3. Backed it up with what? "Oh, they're under Thor's levelz, so he can survive t3h universal expwosion!" Shit logic. Just because they have a feat, and Thor is "above" them(and he is not above Guardian Amped Prime), doesn't me he can perform the same feat. I know you're not exactly the brightest bulb in the shed, but bear with me. Two characters have a durability feat(although one was with shields) above anything Thor has ever shown. Why assume he can survive the same? There is no reason to assume he can. You are using a shoddy example of A>B>C logic to strengthen your argument.

4. He wasn't Guardian Amped now was he?

2.Calm down. There is no proof that this blast can kill a skyfather level character. If Prime survived it, according to you I see no reason why Thor couldn't. A Monitor easily survived it.

3.G-amped Prime never got hit by it. It allegedly hit him when he at at normal levels. Thor has superior feats to G-amped PRIME. Sure he beat some top tiers, but that doesn't cut it against King Thor. He'd annihilate top tiers and annihilated the destroyer with one hammer launch. Are you ok?

There is no proof this blast could kill him.

The GA is only temporary. 🙂

Originally posted by iceman24567
I been saying this for the last several pages Quan doesnt care about facts only his opinion you're wasting you're time.

The funny thing about you Quan is that you think that the Monitors are weak. They have HIGH and LOW feats. They can stop time, & they have powerful technology. They killed a flash by touching him. They laughed and beat down(one of them) a GL like nothing. Their personal guy when powered down was able to hurt Donna. One survived an explosion of the universe. So they are far from being weak.

I disagree and it's not fact that he survived it. It's just iyo. Prime doesn't use his speed against a non speedster. I also think it's speculation to assume he is stronger. Thor is by far more powerful and more versatile.

The Monitor never claimed that Prime survived so you just committed a double standard. He commented that one thing survived and made no mention of Prime. stick out tongue

There is no proof this blast can take out anyone above top tier. I think it would but King Thor, no way!!!

Originally posted by xJLxKing
The funny thing about you Quan is that you think that the Monitors are weak. They have HIGH and LOW feats. They can stop time, & they have powerful technology. They killed a flash by touching him. They laughed and beat down(one of them) a GL like nothing. Their personal guy when powered down was able to hurt Donna. One survived an explosion of the universe. So they are far from being weak.

More versatile? Hell Yeah to Thor. He has more power, more choices, but he just doesn't have the imagination. Maybe you do, but he doesn't. Prime is most definately stronger then Thor. He broke Monarch armor which 52 + heroes couldn't do(was it 52?). Heck he punches through Dimension, and realities. And of course his durability surpasses Thor because Thor has none that come compared to his.

then who was he talking about?

okay, but that doesn't help you in this argument whatsoever.

Yes, they can beat certain top tiers and what not. They are nothing to GA Prime or the Monarch, but meh.

Whose to say that Thor couldn't do that? Oh that;s right you'll speculate he can't without any proof.

Prime has impressive feats, but battlewise the best thing he ever did was break open Monarch's armor during a losing battle.

One thing survived a leafling or something. Not Prime.

It's speculation either way. I gave you my opinion, brah.

They are weak imo. They are nowhere near skyfather level. They are right around elite top tier level/top tier level imo.

Yes, they can beat certain top tiers and what not. They are nothing to GA Prime or the Monarch, but meh.

Whose to say that Thor couldn't do that? Oh that;s right you'll speculate he can't without any proof.

Prime has impressive feats, but battlewise the best thing he ever did was break open Monarch's armor during a losing battle.

One thing survived a leafling or something. Not Prime. It's speculation either way. I gave you my opinion, brah.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
How strong do you put them?
Top Herald? Bellow Mid herald? Skyfather???

Why not? I gave you my reasoning. If Monarch was strong enough to kill them, he would have done it himself. He couldn't, so he raised an army. Not only that, but he said the war that he started would destroy the multiverse because of the Monitors.

It's your burden to prove he can. Oh wait YOU CAN'T.

Perhaps but he has high showings.

That's before he spotted the leaf/plant

Monarch was more powerful than his entire army with twice the numbers and that;s before his upgrade. 🙂

Monarch raised an army, but I don't see anything wrong with assuming he could take out each Monitor at the same time.

I gave my opinion and you're asking me to prove a negative.

Not enough to assume he takes out King Thor here.

Ok. Nowhere was it mentioned that Prime survived.

Dunno, but it isn't close to skyfather level.

Monarch was more powerful than his entire army with twice the numbers and that;s before his upgrade.

Monarch raised an army, but I don't see anything wrong with assuming he could take out each Monitor at the same time.

Ok. Nowhere was it mentioned that Prime survived.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Avoiding the question? Nice!

Where was this posted?

He need an army to kill the Monitors. He couldn't do it himself. He had to HIDE from them so he can build an army.

So now you believe Prime wasn't hit by the blast?

Monarch defeated his army before he forced them to kill each other. Monarch then upgraded himself with the Atoms.

He was going to intervene though. I think with what Monarch showed on panel and what the Monitors showed he could take them all on at once. Granted that is a situation he probably doesn't want, but I think he could manage.

I never said he was. I said according to you and alleged over and over.

Monarch defeated his army before he forced them to kill each other. Monarch then upgraded himself with the Atoms.

He was going to intervene though. I think with what Monarch showed on panel and what the Monitors showed he could take them all on at once. Granted that is a situation he probably doesn't want, but I think he could manage.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He never defeated them at the same time. He took them on slowly. Also, that won't help you at all.

so why was he hiding? I'll tell you. He was hiding because he was building an army to help him take on the monitors.

I never said he wasn't. He was still going to intervene himself and then Prime showed up.

Did you read the arc?

I never said he wasn't. He was still going to intervene himself and then Prime showed up.

Prime destroys both of them