x-men origins wolverine screw ups

Originally posted by chomperx9
list as many parts of the movie that you can think of where the story or character didn't match to what happened in the comics.

A lot.

It isn't supposed to match the comics, it's just an adaptation for a new audience who want to see a Wolverine story without having to wade through 35 years of back-story.

Non comic readers couldn't give a crap that Deadpool ended up being absolutely nothing like the character from the source material.

Originally posted by jinzin
Yikes... Everything?

let's see. *SPOILERS AHEAD FOR YOU KNITWITS WHO MISSED THE THREAD CONCEPT*

In the comics.
- Professor X was already disabled by the time he started to form the X-Men.
- Cyclops never went to a normal highschool.
- Emma frost never started out as an X-man; she was introduced through the Hellfire club.
- Quicksilver also did not start out as an X-man.
- Agent Zero is a morally conscious person/good guy, who has kenetic energy manipulation powers and survived all the way from Team X to HOM, he was not present during the Admantium bonding process. He's also an archenemy of Sabretooth's
- Stryker was not present during the Adamantium bonding process and was not a key figure in the Team X story or even relivent in Marvel at that time.
- Deadpool was not a part of Team X, he also had no powers of super speed and perception, he was quite brooding as Wade Wilson compared to his movie counterpart, and volunteered to be given Wolverine's HF to cure himself of cancer.
-Deadpool's teleportation/body slide is a result of his interactions with Cable, not stealing John's abilities.
-He has no optic blasts, or Adamantium claws... obviously.... OR A CLOSED MOUTH FOR THAT MATTER.
- Blob's massive weight was the result of his mutant powers not an eating disorder.
-Blob started out as an X-men candidate, and later joined the Brotherhood, he's never had anything to do with Team X.
-Blob lost his powers on M-day and was never killed by Sabretooth.
-Bolt is a mutant who started out with the X-men. He was mentored by Maverick long after Team X disbanded.
- Bolt's only interaction with Weapon X was impersonating Maverick in an effort to expose the program before he was killed by Mavs in a fight, he was never killed or attacked by Sabretooth.
-Wolverine's bonding process was done completely different than in the film.
-Cornelius was the main doctor who spearheaded the Weapon X project as were several others who were not showcased in the film.
-Wolverine was held captive in the Weapon X facility for months after the bonding process was completed.
-Wolverine's amnesia is the result of tampering by Weapon X brain scanners and memory implants.
-When Wolverine escaped Weapon X he was completely feral and laid waste to the entire establishment and everyone in it except for two doctors who took refuge and one guardsmen who was left for dead and horribly disfigured.
-When Wolverine ran across the Hudsons he was still feral. They took him in after shooting him down with a hunting rifle.
- The Hudsons were in their late 20's early 30's when they met Logan, not elderly.
-The Hudsons were not killed by Agent Zero.
-The Hudsons were however involved in the creation of Alpha Flight.
- Gambit's first interaction with Sabretooth was while theiving in Paris.
- Gambit's first intaraction with Wolverine was on the X-men circa mutant massacre.
- Adamantium can not penetrate like Adamantium.
-Sabretooth is not Wolverine's brother.
-Sabretooth spent his childhood locked in a basement.
-Wolverine was arguably not even born before the Civil War.
- Wolverine was a paratrooper during D-day he did not invade by beach.
- John Wraith was only known to be present during Team X's cuban occupation and during their attempt to retreive the carbonadium synthesizer, he never owned a gym and was never friends with the Blob, nor any other member of team X.
- Silver Fox was also not part of Team X. She was alive and killed by Sabretooth for real around the early 1900's in a mining/logging town.
-While she did come back later on in Wolverine's life her reappearance vs. her death has never been explained.
- Wolverine's claws do not penetrate through the bones in his hands, they are overlayed on top of them.

All I can think of for right now.

Originally posted by Scoobless
A lot.

It isn't supposed to match the comics, it's just an adaptation for a new audience who want to see a Wolverine story without having to wade through 35 years of back-story.

Non comic readers couldn't give a crap that Deadpool ended up being absolutely nothing like the character from the source material.

Originally posted by chomperx9
they should try to match the comics the best they can so the non comic readers wont get the wrong ideas and stuff. they could have done the stories and characters right and still be entertaining.

Hmmm, I think I disagree with that. To do everything "right" would have taken another hour (or possibly another whole movie) in order to have everything happen in the correct sequence and have all relevant characters on screen.

Quicksilver was in the film? When?

Didn't notice him, either.

And blob hasn't been killed in the 616 by sabes but he also wasn't killed in the film by sabes...was he?

Originally posted by steverules_2
Quicksilver was in the film? When?

He was in a cage, strapped in with bungee ropes by the look of it. When he stopped buzzing around his cell you could see a young guy with white hair.

Really? I really don't remember that bit...did blob get killed by sabes? I saw in the jinzin list something mentioned about sabes killing blob or maybe I didn't read it right

Originally posted by Scoobless
He was in a cage, strapped in with bungee ropes by the look of it. When he stopped buzzing around his cell you could see a young guy with white hair.

Oh yes, I remember now.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Really? I really don't remember that bit...did blob get killed by sabes? I saw in the jinzin list something mentioned about sabes killing blob or maybe I didn't read it right

I don't think he did. Maybe that was shown in another secret ending...? 😕

Originally posted by Scoobless
Hmmm, I think I disagree with that. To do everything "right" would have taken another hour (or possibly another whole movie) in order to have everything happen in the correct sequence and have all relevant characters on screen.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Hmmm, I think I disagree with that. To do everything "right" would have taken another hour (or possibly another whole movie) in order to have everything happen in the correct sequence and have all relevant characters on screen.

Thats the thing, Wolverine has a lot of history and it cant be rushed. The story could be told well in 3 2/2 half hr movies.

Weapon X should have been in the 2nd movie and the 3rd. part 1 should have been his story before Weapon X, his time in Canada, Japan and as patch.

Fox doesnt give a shit about the story and wants to make the cash.

They are so money hungry the wanted to screw up the Watchmen movie unless they got what they wanted.

Originally posted by steverules_2
And blob hasn't been killed in the 616 by sabes but he also wasn't killed in the film by sabes...was he?

It was implied when John Wraith and Sabretooth fight in the alley way. John says something akin to not being scared by Creed and his creepy black coat to which Sabes replies, hehe it worked on Dukes.

After that John says Creed shouldn't have done that and now he'd have to kill Creed.

So I'm guessing he's dead. Figures, since Creed was trying to get John's teleportation powers, the first place he would have ventured was the gym where he would have found Blob.

ooooh ok then cool 🙂

Originally posted by jinzin
Yikes... Everything?

let's see. *SPOILERS AHEAD FOR YOU KNITWITS WHO MISSED THE THREAD CONCEPT*

In the comics.
- Professor X was already disabled by the time he started to form the X-Men.
- Cyclops never went to a normal highschool.
- Emma frost never started out as an X-man; she was introduced through the Hellfire club.
- Quicksilver also did not start out as an X-man.
- Agent Zero is a morally conscious person/good guy, who has kenetic energy manipulation powers and survived all the way from Team X to HOM, he was not present during the Admantium bonding process. He's also an archenemy of Sabretooth's
- Stryker was not present during the Adamantium bonding process and was not a key figure in the Team X story or even relivent in Marvel at that time.
- Deadpool was not a part of Team X, he also had no powers of super speed and perception, he was quite brooding as Wade Wilson compared to his movie counterpart, and volunteered to be given Wolverine's HF to cure himself of cancer.
-Deadpool's teleportation/body slide is a result of his interactions with Cable, not stealing John's abilities.
-He has no optic blasts, or Adamantium claws... obviously.... OR A CLOSED MOUTH FOR THAT MATTER.
- Blob's massive weight was the result of his mutant powers not an eating disorder.
-Blob started out as an X-men candidate, and later joined the Brotherhood, he's never had anything to do with Team X.
-Blob lost his powers on M-day and was never killed by Sabretooth.
-Bolt is a mutant who started out with the X-men. He was mentored by Maverick long after Team X disbanded.
- Bolt's only interaction with Weapon X was impersonating Maverick in an effort to expose the program before he was killed by Mavs in a fight, he was never killed or attacked by Sabretooth.
-Wolverine's bonding process was done completely different than in the film.
-Cornelius was the main doctor who spearheaded the Weapon X project as were several others who were not showcased in the film.
-Wolverine was held captive in the Weapon X facility for months after the bonding process was completed.
-Wolverine's amnesia is the result of tampering by Weapon X brain scanners and memory implants.
-When Wolverine escaped Weapon X he was completely feral and laid waste to the entire establishment and everyone in it except for two doctors who took refuge and one guardsmen who was left for dead and horribly disfigured.
-When Wolverine ran across the Hudsons he was still feral. They took him in after shooting him down with a hunting rifle.
- The Hudsons were in their late 20's early 30's when they met Logan, not elderly.
-The Hudsons were not killed by Agent Zero.
-The Hudsons were however involved in the creation of Alpha Flight.
- Gambit's first interaction with Sabretooth was while theiving in Paris.
- Gambit's first intaraction with Wolverine was on the X-men circa mutant massacre.
- Adamantium can not penetrate like Adamantium.
-Sabretooth is not Wolverine's brother.
-Sabretooth spent his childhood locked in a basement.
-Wolverine was arguably not even born before the Civil War.
- Wolverine was a paratrooper during D-day he did not invade by beach.
- John Wraith was only known to be present during Team X's cuban occupation and during their attempt to retreive the carbonadium synthesizer, he never owned a gym and was never friends with the Blob, nor any other member of team X.
- Silver Fox was also not part of Team X. She was alive and killed by Sabretooth for real around the early 1900's in a mining/logging town.
-While she did come back later on in Wolverine's life her reappearance vs. her death has never been explained.
- Wolverine's claws do not penetrate through the bones in his hands, they are overlayed on top of them.

All I can think of for right now.

Jesus Christ, just get over it. Things have been changed & streamlined since the first film. Unless it's frame for frame from the comic, it seems you won't be happy. They are taking the stories from the comics as basis for adaptation - that's it. As long as they are faithful to the spirit of the stories; that's what should be most important.
And I'm surprised how you didn't mention how Storm was never one of the early students recruited by Xavier - would that have pushed fanboy obsession TOO FAR over the top? 😛

One thing that doesn't jibe with X2 is Stryker's appearance. Logan has that recurring nightmare in the mansion about the adamantium bonding, and has vague memories of Stryker standing over him; he's younger but still had a goatee & glasses - something Danny Huston was missing from the film. I don't know why they didn't get that one.
But that's just a continuity error between the films. Has nothing to do with what's different from the comics.

And Wolverine & Sabretooth being half brothers isn't a mistake -

- Because Marvel has never provided evidence one way or the other it isn't true. Being vague & contradictory about their relationship for decades, with all the stuff about false memories from Weapon X; they could have clarified things with Wolverine: Origin but failed to. So the filmmakers just took things into their own hands, while Marvel has just sat on things, undecided.

Originally posted by roughrider
And Wolverine & Sabretooth being half brothers isn't a mistake -

- Because Marvel has never provided evidence one way or the other it isn't true. Being vague & contradictory about their relationship for decades, with all the stuff about false memories from Weapon X; they could have clarified things with Wolverine: Origin but failed to. So the filmmakers just took things into their own hands, while Marvel has just sat on things, undecided.

Originally posted by roughrider
And Wolverine & Sabretooth being half brothers isn't a mistake -

- Because Marvel has never provided evidence one way or the other it isn't true. Being vague & contradictory about their relationship for decades, with all the stuff about false memories from Weapon X; they could have clarified things with Wolverine: Origin but failed to. So the filmmakers just took things into their own hands, while Marvel has just sat on things, undecided.

It was confirmed that they're NOT related at all. Blood tests were done. Read Wolverine v2 #42.

... or just click on this thumbnail.

Originally posted by roughrider
Jesus Christ, just get over it. Things have been changed & streamlined since the first film. Unless it's frame for frame from the comic, it seems you won't be happy. They are taking the stories from the comics as basis for adaptation - that's it. As long as they are faithful to the spirit of the stories; that's what should be most important.
And I'm surprised how you didn't mention how Storm was never one of the early students recruited by Xavier - would that have pushed fanboy obsession TOO FAR over the top? 😛

.... What in the blue balls?.... 😕

The whole point of this thread is to point out movie related comic inaccuracies. That list isn't a statement about how I feel about the movie.

IMO I like the movie. I liked the relationships. I like the characters.

The DP thing even works well for the movie.
Does it bode well for DP fans? No, or as a DP representation? No.... But for this film his change up really didn't bother me and I enjoyed watching Wolverine and Sabes team up against the boss villain.

Overall I thought it was an entertaining action flick, fast paced sure but like a superhero version of a Bourne movie.

The only problem I had with the movie that didn't sit well with me long after it was over was the whole ending bit. It left much to be desired. But that really has nothing to do with being a comics fan as much as a movie go-er.