Originally posted by Spire
Hmm, this is actually surprising that someone can be that dull.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447662&highlight=tier
This is the forum consensus on skill. If you don't like that you can look at the statics Marvel publishes. If you don't like then you can do a side by side comparison of their skill feats. Sadly none of those things are going to support your conclusion that Thor > Wolverine in skill.
Originally posted by Starscream M
Thor diesthor without mjolnir...or powers is basically hulk without the strength amp and hf
thor will not survive getting cut up by creed and logan since his hf is not that powerful
and he has no way of putting down both Logan or Creed...guys who can hold their own against Hulk
this is pretty much spite...no way thor could really win this fight
Couple things here.
1. Bullshits.
2. Thor still has powers.
3. Thor wins.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well, he didn't say Classic. Forum rules means we use Current. 😛Edit. Odinpower allows for: Force fields, Time Stop, levitation of Logan and Creed off the ground, etc.
Tons of things he can do to turn this into a stompfest.
All of those things fall under the classification of energy manipulation. The fight stipulates a no powers brawl.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447662&highlight=tierThis is the forum consensus on skill. If you don't like that you can look at the statics Marvel publishes. If you don't like then you can do a side by side comparison of their skill feats. Sadly none of those things are going to support your conclusion that Thor > Wolverine in skill.
Yes that is the consensus on MARTIAL ARTS skill.
Combat is also about combat tactics, combat reflexes and physical abilities as well. Not just MA skills.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Yes that is the consensus on MARTIAL ARTS skill.Combat is also about combat tactics, combat reflexes and physical abilities as well. Not just MA skills.
... Except for we were specifically talking about skill in this instance. 😕
Wolverine is more skill than Thor. Hands down. Its not even a debate.
Is Wolverine a better tactician? Thor uses a magic hammer to hit people. He fights like a complete moron. He rarely uses his powers to his full potential... because he is a bruiser and likes to get his hands dirty. His tactics and fighting skill leave A LOT to be desired. So that's also an other issue where it is hardly even a matter for debate... one would only need to have a passing knowledge of both these characters to draw the right conclusion on these matters.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All of those things fall under the classification of energy manipulation. The fight stipulates a no powers brawl.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Logan & Creed (adamantium for both)Vs.
Thor w/o Mjolnir (no energy projection, no flight)
Knockdown, drag out, no holds barred brawl to the death.
Battle takes in Texas Stadium.
Discuss.
Nope, nothing about levitating ur opponents or time manipulation here. Unless u define "energy projection" as "anything that has to do with not fists". The stips were energy projection, hammer and flight.
Heck, Thor can still manipulate the weather without his hammer...
Following the stips to the letter, he curbstomps the two.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=447662&highlight=tierThis is the forum consensus on skill. If you don't like that you can look at the statics Marvel publishes. If you don't like then you can do a side by side comparison of their skill feats. Sadly none of those things are going to support your conclusion that Thor > Wolverine in skill.
Right... 111 pages of dispute.
Thor has more experience.
Thor has fought people with MA that would stomp wolverine.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All of those things fall under the classification of energy manipulation. The fight stipulates a no powers brawl.
I'll just ask you straight out so that you can pwn yourself.
If Thor doesn't have Mjolnir he can only H2H?
Originally posted by jalek moyereally
u dont need a powerful healing factor to beat them. in ab ralw if you just complety can overpower them ffrom start to finish you'll be fine
how's hulk or hercules or thing or other bricks fared against these two?
Hulk only survives against Wolverine because his insane HF constantly heals himself everytime logan cuts him...thor would be dead against two skilled adamantium fighters
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Nope, nothing about levitating ur opponents or time manipulation here. Unless u define "energy projection" as "anything that has to do with not fists". The stips were energy projection, hammer and flight.Heck, Thor can still manipulate the weather without his hammer...
Following the stips to the letter, he curbstomps the two.
Shit I thought it said no energy manipulation, not projection. 😮
Originally posted by Starscream M
Hulk only survives against Wolverine because his insane HF constantly heals himself everytime logan cuts him
Actually, if hulk were written to his maximum potential, instead of trying to make a comic seem interesting for wolverine fans, then (adamantium or not) hulk would rip logan's arms off and beat him to death with his own claws.
Originally posted by Starscream M
this isn't thor thoughthis is severely handicapped thor
he doesn't have mjonlir, no energy powers, no flight
he's basically hercules
Pretty much... only Herc has edged out Thor in melee before.
Melee slug-fest, no powers (like the OP intended), Thor can't compeat with these two.
Originally posted by Starscream M
reallyhow's hulk or hercules or thing or other bricks fared against these two?
Hulk only survives against Wolverine because his insane HF constantly heals himself everytime logan cuts him...thor would be dead against two skilled adamantium fighters