Wolverine & Sabertooth Vs. Thor (unarmed)

Started by OneDumbG022 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The dudes intire rogue gallery consists of people on the same level of speed as Herc and Hulk... I mean a large portion of them have had even Spider-man dance around them like statues.

Spider-man > god-like speed apparently...

It's obvious that you don't read Thor from such a statement. Let me educate you that Thor's best combat speed feats and combat reflex feats are not quantified by the likes of beating on Ulik, Hercules or Destroyer. At all. I know that's how you'd like to believe that's how we quantify Thor's combat speed/reflexes, but it's not. Save the straw-manning for another argument.

Thor 10/10.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Once again.

FLIGHT SPEED != COMBAT SPEED

She wouldn't need combat speed, even though she does have that, in the situation her flight speed is what mattered.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Once again.

FLIGHT SPEED != COMBAT SPEED

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are you looking at the right scan? he is digging the trench WITH HIS HAMMER. how could he do that when he uses the hammer to FLY . . .? he is on the ground, hacking out the trench with mjollnir.

on
the
ground.

bouncing, jumping, moving and wielding mjollnir at superhuman speed.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's obvious that you don't read Thor from such a statement. Let me educate you that Thor's best combat speed feats and combat reflex feats are not quantified by the likes of beating on Ulik, Hercules or Destroyer. At all. I know that's how you'd like to believe that's how we quantify Thor's combat speed/reflexes, but it's not. Save the straw-manning for another argument.

Thor 10/10.

I've read a great deal of Thor, and I can tell you - with out a moments hesitation - that he rarely displays any combat speed that buts him above the top tier bricks he spends to majority of his time fight.

But apparently I don't know what I'm talking about. 🙄

^ Exactly right. You don't know. Because if you do read Thor, your opinion is a jaundiced account at best. Thor's got countless battles against normal foes or bricks who exclaim about his combat speed outright.

And Thor's superhuman combat reflexes are well-documented throughout KMC. And while Thor's superhuman combat speed feats aren't, he's got enough of them so that even a more-than-casual Thor reader would be aware of them. One of which is posted in this very thread as a rebuttal to you even.

Thor 10/10.

Originally posted by leonidas
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are you looking at the right scan? he is digging the trench WITH HIS HAMMER. how could he do that when he uses the hammer to FLY . . .? he is on the ground, hacking out the trench with mjollnir.

on
the
ground.

bouncing, jumping, moving and wielding mjollnir at superhuman speed.

I was talking about the Ms. Marvel feat.

In regards to this specific feat (which I though was already addressed in this thread), its hard to quantify the speed. He moves *almost* too fast for the eye to fallow? Okay cool... only virtually every street level hero has done that. He carved a path for the lava? Impressive... or at least it would be if Captain America did it, but seriously how many swings of his hammer would it take for a Class 100 to blow out a trench like that? I'm thinking not many.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Exactly right. You don't know. Because if you do read Thor, your opinion is a jaundiced account at best. Thor's got countless battles against normal foes or bricks who exclaim about his combat speed outright.

And yet all of those foes still manage to compete with him in melee altercations. Clearly any difference in speed Thor *may* have over his opponents is insignificant at best.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And Thor's superhuman combat reflexes are well-documented throughout KMC. And while Thor's superhuman combat speed feats aren't, he's got enough of them so that even a more-than-casual Thor reader would be aware of them. One of which is posted in this very thread as a rebuttal to you even.

I look forward to seeing these mythical Thor speed feats. Post them at your leisure of course.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And yet all of those foes still manage to compete with him in melee altercations. Clearly any difference in speed Thor *may* have over his opponents is insignificant at best.

I look forward to seeing these mythical Thor speed feats. Post them at your leisure of course.

Wolverine's brick opponents have competed with him as well. Double-standards ftl. Instances of being tagged by slower opponents does not diminish one's capabilities. Insignificant? That's probably one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read from a self-proclaimed Thor reader.

You will. On Monday, when I'm done visiting my parents and have access to the scans that I've been compiling for my Revamped Thor Respect Thread. In the meantime:

Thor 10/10.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Wolverine's brick opponents have competed with him as well. Double-standards ftl. Instances of being tagged by slower opponents does not diminish one's capabilities. Insignificant? That's probably one of the most ignorant statements I've ever read from a self-proclaimed Thor reader.

You will. On Monday, when I'm done visiting my parents and have access to the scans that I've been compiling for my Revamped Thor Respect Thread. In the meantime:

Thor 10/10.

Till Monday then. Just a heads up, examples of hammer spinning and flight will be completely ignored.

^ Absolutely. Flight speed is not combat speed. Being able to spin a hammer at incalculable speeds, while arguably combat speed, is not definitive enough for KMC standards when the hammer itself is magical. Of course, why Wonder Woman gets that sort of pass still eludes me...

i also believe that cutting thor shouldn't be such an easy task to begin with, considering what he can withstand without any sort of forcefield.

his body can deflect bullets from assault rifles without a mark to show for it.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i also believe that cutting thor shouldn't be such an easy task to begin with, considering what he can withstand without any sort of forcefield.

his body can deflect bullets from assault rifles without a mark to show for it.

You will be surprisse what Wolverine can cut. He has cut characters who can take world destroying shots, Supernovas etc... but still get cut like a biatch.

I would call it PIS but it happens way often to be classified as such. Also didn't Wolverine cut King Thor?

Still i see Thor winning a good majority like 8/10 due to his immense strength advantage and he is almost as good in fighting.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, he has on more occasions than i could count, been able to not only raise mjollnir, but spin it to act as a shield against energy attacks. he did it against gladiator, to name just one prime example. glads blasts THEN thor raises the hammer and spins it as a shield. he's done the same against nafaria. that reaction time is pretty off the charts. and again, that above scan shows thor capable of moving at truly superhuman speeds. warlock has said he was as swift as the lightning he commands when he faced thor. surtur has mentioned how fast thor can be in battle.

hercules otoh--he has NO speed feats to speak of. if he did, it would make debating him vs logan hella easier . . . 🙁


I thought had a few speed feats to his credit? It even seems like I remember him getting all pissed and pounding on someone at super speed(with multiple images of his hands/arms and such)...

Originally posted by carver9
Brawl is being physical with each other (without any weapons), I thought everyone knew this. 😕

Well IF everyone "knew" that, then everyone would be wrong. In bar room brawls, people basically use everything they can get a hold off as weapons. Many people could also see "brawl" as a chaotic, spontaneous and rules-free fight. But for the correct definition, see: www.dictionary.com (or just read the one I posted).

Like I said, as long as we're using current (Odinpower) Thor, he can just do a ton of crap to himself or to Wolverine and Sabretooth using the Odinpower that would turn this into a curbstomp.

He should be able to grab them both, and slam them together hard enough to completely crush their insides up. But I guess they will still probably heal and come back after him. If he can cause a planet to shake apart arm wrestling hercules then they should not be able to scratch him but that isn't how comics are written either.

Originally posted by Starscream M
you have no credibility

Care to repeat that, SON?

Originally posted by joesha28
Dudes they can go all stealth they want... but it Thor goes Berserk.. Logan berserker rage's nothing. And the Odinson's a master tact of battles... equal to Cap in h2h... Jimmy and victor's doomed.

I'm assuming then you're not aware that Cap has beaten Thor WITH his hammer. 😐

Still Thor no matter what Jinzin, Srank and Battlehammer say. uhuh

durthor biscuits

Originally posted by Trackz
daken has speedblitzed wolverine, when daken tries to get in one hit on Bor, he is taken out:
http://g.imagehost.org/view/0110/Thor_600_026

the rest are taken out similarly in H2H, Thor was equaling Bor in H2H,

Thor would take out these two very quickly, it wouldn't even be a fight

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i love how in every brick thread, some supporter comes in with a brick hitting someone in a general fight exchange and that's somehow an example of their super speed...

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ZOMG LOOK AT THE SUPER SPEED! 😱

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4824969

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7603/vsvengeance4zb3.jpg

Originally posted by jinzin
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i love how in every brick thread, some supporter comes in with a brick hitting someone in a general fight exchange and that's somehow an example of their super speed...

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ZOMG LOOK AT THE SUPER SPEED! 😱

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4824969

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7603/vsvengeance4zb3.jpg

either he's a brick or just faster than daken.