Thanos vs......

Started by Kris Blaze6 pages

Originally posted by Nihilist
so you are trolling now!

it was a response to all your points

She wanted to subdue her,Thanos wanted to put her down for good, which he did..big difference.

Thanos didn't kill her, but he put her in a permanent stasis. If he had killed her, then the maker would've been released. Why do you think Thanos asked the Fallen one to retrieve her later?? Why do you think the fallen one was looking over the Kyln wreckage?

My point was that you tried to make it seem as if the Oracle couldn't kill the maker, but she never tried to. The Oracle had no trouble shutting down the maker, and she is far, far below the stepford cuckoos. So how is this a telepathic feat to put him over the combined telepathic defenses of Surfer and JoH?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thanos didn't kill her, but he put her in a permanent stasis. If he had killed her, then the maker would've been released. Why do you think Thanos asked the Fallen one to retrieve her later?? Why do you think the fallen one was looking over the Kyln wreckage?

My point was that you tried to make it seem as if the Oracle couldn't kill the maker, but she never tried to. The Oracle had no trouble shutting down the maker, and she is far, far below the stepford cuckoos. So how is this a telepathic feat to put him over the combined telepathic defenses of Surfer and JoH?

Thanos "killed the mind" as he put it.

It's still the beyonders mind that got shut down, she/he was only vulnerable in a physical sense, and its unclear if Oracle could have killed her irrc she has never killed anyone like that before, and when she did delve in the makers mind to shut he down it eventually drove her insane, whilst it had no effect on Thanos.

As for the Cuckoos did all 3 take on Oracle?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Thanos "killed the mind" as he put it.

It's still the beyonders mind that got shut down, she/he was only vulnerable in a physical sense, and its unclear if Oracle could have killed her irrc she has never killed anyone like that before, and when she did delve in the makers mind to shut he down it eventually drove her insane, whilst it had no effect on Thanos.

As for the Cuckoos did all 3 take on Oracle?

There were 5 of them, and they did it effortlessly.

And it's just not impressive.

There's also a reason why he had to defeat the Maker before doing it.

So it took 5 of them..

The reason...he if he had destroyed her body and not her mind the Beyonder would have been released.

And as Goober said Thanos beat Moonndragon with Tp, back when she was able to dominate entire planets with TP(gonna re read it now for context)

Originally posted by Nihilist
And as Goober said Thanos beat Moonndragon with Tp, back when she was controlling planets

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thanos didn't kill her, but he put her in a permanent stasis. If he had killed her, then the maker would've been released. Why do you think Thanos asked the Fallen one to retrieve her later?? Why do you think the fallen one was looking over the Kyln wreckage?

My point was that you tried to make it seem as if the Oracle couldn't kill the maker, but she never tried to. The Oracle had no trouble shutting down the maker, and she is far, far below the stepford cuckoos. So how is this a telepathic feat to put him over the combined telepathic defenses of Surfer and JoH?

Took all 5 of them? They NEED all 5 in order to produce any kind of formidable telepathy..... It's hardly 5 times Xavier we're talking about here. The 5 of them were a far-cry away from Emma Frost.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Took all 5 of them? They NEED all 5 in order to produce any kind of formidable telepathy..... It's hardly 5 times Xavier we're talking about here. The 5 of them were a far-cry away from Emma Frost.
Didnt they only use 3 of them to contact all the other xmen who were in various places around the globe in WWH.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Took all 5 of them? They NEED all 5 in order to produce any kind of formidable telepathy.....
No they don't.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Didnt they only use 3 of them to contact all the other xmen who were in various places around the globe in WWH.
There are only three now.

Originally posted by Mindset
There are only three now.
What happened to the other 2.

Died

Originally posted by Mindset
Died
What from.

Originally posted by Nihilist
What from.

One of them was killed by Magneto.

One of them died as they attacked Quentin Quire.

And about two thousand died in the Phoenix: Warsong.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Jack has telepathy on his own. Morg has affected Thanos in the past. Surfer has never hit Thanos with more than maybe 2 attacks. There's no reason why he would be continously unaffected by these attacks if The Thing and Masterson Thor can affect him.

1) Morg "affecting" Thanos consisted of him diving at him and taking him to the ground. Which Thanos proceeded to rectify by one-shotting him. Don't get cute with the semantics.

EDIT: For no purpose at all, I'll add that he's also one-shot Hiemdall. I forgot to add that to my list several posts ago.

2) Surfer was pissed off both times he used energy blasts against Thanos, leading anyone to the logical conclusion that they were not his standard, "Oh, let me hold back until I can talk this person out of doing evil." There's all the reason in the world to think he wouldn't be affected by continuous blasts from Surfer, since they've never hurt him before. This is the same being who can tank and walk through Odin's blasts. Surfer's aren't going to hurt him at all.
3) Thing never "affected" Thanos in any meaningful way, either. Thanos KO'd him with a flick of the wrist once, and again with a casual eye beam. And when Thing attempted to punch him? He was flung backwards onto his ass with Thanos not even flinching. And then there's him manhandling Thing & Hulk at the same time. Again, see #1's complaint.
4) Thanos let Masterson Thor affect him. We've seen what other, lesser idiots like Titana and Champion can do with it. Thanos was putting on a show. That's all.
5) Thing has also "affected" The Champion, Hulk, and...Galactus. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- Thanos has never worked his telepathy on someone who is resisting. Just like he cannot BREACH any kind of telepathic defenses set up by Jack of Hearts AND Surfer. Telepathy isn't relevant here and Thanos has never displayed it while exhibiting other powers.

Bullshit. Thanos has beaten a Mind Gem amped Moondragon on the astral plane before in a psychic duel. That qualifies as 'resisting.' He's also beaten Intelligent Drax with his TP while he was also resisting.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- Transmutation? Thanos has never, ever "Transmuted" anyone on BRB's level.

Ohhh, you're right! I mean, he's only ever transmuted someone with total control of their entire molecular structure before. How shitty.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Oh what relevance is this nonsense? Thanos is affected by attacks from heralds. He's been seemingly unaffected by attacks from the Surfer, but everybody else affects him.

Thanos isn't effected by herald-levelers and lower unless PIS is involved. Bullets have left welts on Thor's skin. Same PIS there.

Originally posted by kgkg
Again nothing shows he can even attack when he has shields on. I mean the battle with Champion was pretty clear on that note.

I've explained this before. Against Champion he was using his tech's shields. Against The Fallen One, he used an energy shield from his personal energy stores. That's why Fallen One is seemingly stopped by 'energy' - because he's just run into Thanos' shield face first. Then Thanos blasts him away. He's got two different types of shielding. He probably used his energy shielding there because they were so close together and The Fallen One has FTL speed. Didn't have time to activate the tech.

Originally posted by kgkg
It's more that Surfer kobs to Thanos every time. Surfer's level energy output should be able to affect Thanos. If you solely going by how Thanos isn't affected by Surfer but the thruth is he has been hurt by less before.

You're starting to sound like Kris now. No, Surfer's level of energy output shouldn't be able to affect Thanos, because Thanos has taken it before without having an issue. Just like he's tanked blasts from Odin which KO'd Surfer in one blow. Surfer jobbing? In both their fights (okay, first one wasn't a fight), Surfer was basically in character.

Originally posted by kgkg
When was this? Also Morg was also hurt bullrushed Thanos also.

To the first question: Cosmic Powers 5. To the second comment...what?

Originally posted by kgkg
BRB has crazy energy outputs. Like i said earlier he can absorb thanos blast, while Surfer can heal the injured. As for your WM Thor example that's what Thanos excels at taking blow for blows it won't be the case here.

Yeah, if Thanos attempts to blast BRB. But considering he's fought Thor and knows about Mjolnir and what it can do, why would he? If Thanos goes H2H against BRB, the fight turns out like WM Thor vs. BRB did.

Originally posted by kgkg
This is more like an energy discharge than anything. It's like SSJ power up. Nothing here shows this will have affect anybody important.

...Its an omnidirectional blast. And, I didn't post it, he's also used an omnidirectional blast to one-shot kill Warlock w/ Soul Gem. So yes, it is powerful.

For Kris:

No energy discharge from the Force Block for Bill to absorb. Wasn't sure about that until I went back and looked. Couldn't do it earlier.

I can see yellow energy beams coming in from all around Odin. Which is pretty much the same as what took place against Ego. It would most likely put down BRB if they were fighting one on one, but not if they're on a team and BRB's duty is to absorb energy.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I've explained this before. Against Champion he was using his tech's shields. Against The Fallen One, he used an energy shield from his personal energy stores. That's why Fallen One is seemingly stopped by 'energy' - because he's just run into Thanos' shield face first. Then Thanos blasts him away. He's got two different types of shielding. He probably used his energy shielding there because they were so close together and The Fallen One has FTL speed. Didn't have time to activate the tech.
I am not arguing whether he has tech shield or not or what type of shield he used in this battle. Point is his lower end personal shield hasn’t done much and any shielding that was good was one of those bubble shield were he can’t attack from. Fallen One didn’t run into any shield you can clearly see Thanos raising his hand to stop him. Where are you getting the he “ran into shield” part? All we see his hand has his hand up and Fallen one is stopped also Thanos was prepared to attack in the scene just before that.

Again nothing shows Thanos can actually attack while having shield on. All that shows is Thanos stop Fallen one with some type of force.

Originally posted by kgkg
I am not arguing whether he has tech shield or not or what type of shield he used in this battle. Point is his lower end personal shield hasn’t done much and any shielding that was good was one of those bubble shield were he can’t attack from. Fallen One didn’t run into any shield you can clearly see Thanos raising his hand to stop him. Where are you getting the he “ran into shield” part? All we see his hand has his hand up and Fallen one is stopped also Thanos was prepared to attack in the scene just before that.

Again nothing shows Thanos can actually attack while having shield on. All that shows is Thanos stop Fallen one with some type of force.

His face ran into something. I for one think it's a shield but either way it's within his abilities to stop someone with blazing speed from attacking him head on.

Originally posted by quanchi112
His face ran into something. I for one think it's a shield but either way it's within his abilities to stop someone with blazing speed from attacking him head on.
Yes it ran into Thanos's attack not a Pre-made shield. Some sort of attack that stop Fallen One on his track. I don't see where the leap on in logic is coming from nothing indicated he had shield which prevented a blitz you can clearly see Thanos activity countering his hand being raised like telekinesis and he was ready for Fallen One blitz

The argument is that whether Thanos can attack while having his shield on. Those scan does not help prove that.

Originally posted by kgkg
Yes it ran into Thanos's attack not a Pre-made shield. Some sort of attack that stop Fallen One on his track. I don't see where the leap on in logic is coming from nothing indicated he had shield which prevented a blitz you can clearly see Thanos activity countering his hand being raised like telekinesis and he was ready for Fallen One blitz

The argument is that whether Thanos can attack while having his shield on. Those scan does not help prove that.

He used Tk while the energy is still radiating around him from his energy force shielding he stopped Fallen one with.

Originally posted by kgkg
I am not arguing whether he has tech shield or not or what type of shield he used in this battle. Point is his lower end personal shield hasn’t done much and any shielding that was good was one of those bubble shield were he can’t attack from. Fallen One didn’t run into any shield you can clearly see Thanos raising his hand to stop him. Where are you getting the he “ran into shield” part? All we see his hand has his hand up and Fallen one is stopped also Thanos was prepared to attack in the scene just before that.

Again nothing shows Thanos can actually attack while having shield on. All that shows is Thanos stop Fallen one with some type of force.


Okay. I'll drop that and use your view...

Thanos proceeds to stop Gladiator and SS from blitzing him with a hand gesture. 😄

Prior to forceblocking BRB for the lulz and one-shotting everyone else.