Who can pass Darkseid's challenge?

Started by Enyalus4 pages

Originally posted by Sin I AM
🙄 would u like to see it, I have scans 🙄

Yes, please.

Originally posted by Raoul
FC did have a somewhat contrived ending, but the first three or four issues are very, very good imo. add in the Tie ins (Superman Beyond, Revelations), and it's damn good.

With Blackest Night coming up, and the awesomeness that is the New Krypton story, DC just has that extra bit of greatness atm...

...Issues 1-2 of FC were not only confusing, but boring. 3-5 were good. Maybe even great. 6 started to get lame. 7 was a disasterpiece.

FC tie-ins for the most part were amazing.

😬 I think New Krypton sucks right now. Hope it gets better. Blackest Night I'm salvating over.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, please.

...Issues 1-2 of FC were not only confusing, but boring. 3-5 were good. Maybe even great. 6 started to get lame. 7 was a disasterpiece.

FC tie-ins for the most part were amazing.

😬 I think New Krypton sucks right now. Hope it gets better. Blackest Night I'm salvating over.

i enjoyed issues one and two. sure they were slow, but when taken in context with the rest of the series, i think they hold up ok.

you don't like new krypton? why, because its a superman book? uhuh

Originally posted by Raoul
i enjoyed issues one and two. sure they were slow, but when taken in context with the rest of the series, i think they hold up ok.

Issues 1-2 of FC reminded me of issues 1-4 of COIE...you could get rid of them, and still have a readable story.

Originally posted by Raoul
you don't like new krypton? why, because its a superman book? uhuh

Why do you like NK? It basically shits on 70 years of continuity. And why the hell are the NK Kryptonians nearly as powerful as Superman, who's had 30+ years worth more yellow sunlight exposure than them? Plus, it's too freakin' long. What is it, 24 parts? 15? I don't remember offhand.

They did this with Trinity, too. People lose interest...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Are you kidding me? 😬 You haven't read much Darkseid, have you? DS flips the bird at frigging Spectre. He's tried to destroy the Source, the entity that created the new gods. He wants to enslave everything to his will with the ALE.

If anything, he would scare Odin. Darkseid is a monster like no other. Hell, check out FC.

Ds has also begged for quarter against Superman, was physically wrecked by Doomsday, failed with prep to beast the Source through eons of planning, failed to damage the Spectre like Black Adam has. Ds was also oneshotted to the bone.

Odin is far more powerful and one shots top tiers. He doesn't lose straight up to top tiers wit his powers in check.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds has also begged for quarter against Superman, was physically wrecked by Doomsday, failed with prep to beast the Source through eons of planning, failed to damage the Spectre like Black Adam has. Ds was also oneshotted to the bone.

Eons of planning?

Darkseid's only been Lord of Apokolips for about 1,300 years.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Eons of planning?

Darkseid's only been Lord of Apokolips for about 1,300 years.

A long time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds has also begged for quarter against Superman, was physically wrecked by Doomsday, failed with prep to beast the Source through eons of planning, failed to damage the Spectre like Black Adam has. Ds was also oneshotted to the bone.

Odin is far more powerful and one shots top tiers. He doesn't lose straight up to top tiers wit his powers in check.

Crap writing, not a low showing, retconned and not a low showing, fail because he fought a full power Spectre and Adam was fighting DOV, not to mention Adam's attack did NOTHING, and epic fail because getting dusted by SPECTRE is not a low showing.

Debatable. And shut your hole. From the minds of Rogue Trader, here's THE MASTER, lip-synching "Voodoo Child." HERE COME THE DRUMS! clap

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And DS has been lord of Apokolips since before the existence of humans.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Crap writing, not a low showing, retconned and not a low showing, fail because he fought a full power Spectre and Adam was fighting DOV, not to mention Adam's attack did NOTHING, and epic fail because getting dusted by SPECTRE is not a low showing.

Debatable. And shut your hole. From the minds of Rogue Trader, here's THE MASTER, lip-synching "Voodoo Child." HERE COME THE DRUMS! clap

YouTube video

And DS has been lord of Apokolips since before the existence of humans.

I never said it was a low showing. I said that it's canon and that you have to accept it. You can't sweep it under the rug and pretend it isn't out there.

What did that Spectre do to prove that it was more powerful than dov Spectre?

Ds's attack did nothing but BA clearly physically affected the Spectre while Ds did no such thing.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And DS has been lord of Apokolips since before the existence of humans.

😬 Bull.

30,000 years ago was when Uxas was first born. 1,300 ago was when Uxas first became Darkseid.

Humanity? Older than that.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Issues 1-2 of FC reminded me of issues 1-4 of COIE...you could get rid of them, and still have a readable story.

maybe, but i think it would be less without it...

Why do you like NK? It basically shits on 70 years of continuity. And why the hell are the NK Kryptonians nearly as powerful as Superman, who's had 30+ years worth more yellow sunlight exposure than them? Plus, it's too freakin' long. What is it, 24 parts? 15? I don't remember offhand.

They did this with Trinity, too. People lose interest...

superman doesn't have 70 years of continuity. everything, even his origin, is constantly being refined and redesigned.

supergirl had more potent exposure to yellow sunlight, and yet superman has said himself that he could put her down.

it's been established already that superman is superior to the Kryptonians on NK. it's been shown more than once, iirc. he is stronger, he is faster, he's better in ever way.

also, i don't think the actual years of exposure count as much as, say, proximity to the sun. superman has gone from no charge to full charge in seconds while in direct sunlight. his ability to process that energy might be superior, sure, but he's still a kryptonian. he has almost the same genetic makeup they do (bar his little SSS thing).

i didn't know they were going to have that many issues of New Krypton. At most, i was expecting maybe a dozen issues, if even that.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Plus, it's too freakin' long. What is it, 24 parts? 15? I don't remember offhand.

They did this with Trinity, too. People lose interest...

24 parts total, across Superman, Action Comics, Supergirl and the NK Specials.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
24 parts total, across Superman, Action Comics, Supergirl and the NK Specials.

Thanks.

And yeah, way too long IMO. I wanna see more variety and villains and storylines over 6+ months.

Re: Who can pass Darkseid's challenge?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
DS is just chilling in Apokalips bored as hell so he takes a page out of Doom's book and invites a few heroes and villains over to try and induce some fear in him. They get 5 days to prepare and they can't physically attack him. DS is free to naturally resist TP.

1. Punisher via interrogation and torture tactics. For fairness sake we'll Frank's tools has the power to harm him and stuff as it would a regular human. He has one day to torture him.

2. Superman.

3. Thanos.

4. Professor Xavier with Mind Gem

5. Odin on his best day.

6. Silver Surfer.

7. Galactus.

8. Shadow King with Mind Gem.

9. HOM Wanda. She can't erase him or pull a "No More New Gods"

10. Peak Onslaught.

11. Eternity

12. TricksterPriest

1- Fail
2- Fail
3- Might do it
4- Does DS is resistant to TP? If so, Chuck fail, if he's not, Xavier pwn
5- Don't do it.
6- Fail
7- Do it
8- Do it
9- Fail
10- Fail / What a lame character
11- Do it
12- Do it

Originally posted by Enyalus
😬 Bull.

30,000 years ago was when Uxas was first born. 1,300 ago was when Uxas first became Darkseid.

Humanity? Older than that.

Darkseid/Uxas may well be billions of years old, based on the time lines.

Darkseid has been lord of Apokolips since before the existence of humanity.

If Orion was already considered ancient in 40,000 BC and he's considered young among the NG's. DS is far older.

We know he was born millenia before taking over Apokolips and he was already the lord of Apokolips by 40,000 bc. Yuga had been lord of Apokolips billions of years before any human beings and DS was born somewhere in the billions of years that Yuga ruled Apokolips.

Originally posted by Allankles
Darkseid/Uxas may well be billions of years old, based on the time lines.

Darkseid has been lord of Apokolips since before the existence of humanity.

If Orion was already considered ancient in 40,000 BC and he's considered young among the NG's. DS is far older.


Where is this stated? Because in the NG Secret Files and Origins, Orion's about 301 years old. The New Gods themselves only reached Godhood around 30,000 years ago.

And Genesis, one of the NG anchor stories which has definitely not been retconned, only confirms this.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
24 parts total, across Superman, Action Comics, Supergirl and the NK Specials.

oh, that's not so bad.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanks.

And yeah, way too long IMO. I wanna see more variety and villains and storylines over 6+ months.

The "Superman" book isn't about New Krypton. You've got Mon-El, the return of Shrapnel (yay!) and the Parasite hunting him.

Or do you not count that because of the lack of Clark?

and there's always Superman Batman.

Originally posted by Raoul
The "Superman" book isn't about New Krypton. You've got Mon-El, the return of Shrapnel (yay!) and the Parasite hunting him.

Or do you not count that because of the lack of Clark?

Definitely not. Superman isn't Superman without Superman...

Also, why are you excited about Shrapnel? He's a kind of a joke character, lol.

Originally posted by Raoul
and there's always Superman Batman.

😘 Superman/Batman hasn't had a good storyline in over a year probably. Its so PIS-filled I can barely stand it.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Definitely not. Superman isn't Superman without Superman...

Also, why are you excited about Shrapnel? He's a kind of a joke character, lol.

😘 Superman/Batman hasn't had a good storyline in over a year probably. Its so PIS-filled I can barely stand it. [/B]

fair enough.

i like Shrapnel. I know he's a bit silly, but he's one of those villains who fills out the universe really well.

HEY. i never said S/B would be any good, did i? 😛

Plus, Superman is due to appear in Flash: Rebirth and has his own Blackest Night tie in, so there's at least something you can enjoy, no?

I don't mind New Krypton, personally, as long as Alura (sp?) gets her comeuppance at the end...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
😂 Guaratee most of the forum does not know who that is.

and **** you, oh so very much. dopedfu

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Hail to the Master. pray

my god...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Where is this stated? Because in the NG Secret Files and Origins, Orion's about 301 years old. The New Gods themselves only reached Godhood around 30,000 years ago.

And Genesis, one of the NG anchor stories which has definitely not been retconned, only confirms this.

Orion, Metron and Lightray were on Earth in 40,000 BC and gave the primordial humans inspiration, fire and magic.

Yuga according to the timeline is just under 4 billion years old and DS was born somewhere in those billion years of warfare that saw the house of Yuga Khan become the royal house of Apokolips.

Also it should be noted that DS deliberately stalled the birth of Orion as part of a strategy in his war with New Genesis.