How do you Greco Roman wrestle three guys at the same time. A key facet of Greco Roman Wrestling is having your hands locked around your opponent and vice versa. Breaking that standing lock means you lose a point. So, I'm unclear how he's this match is supposed to look at play out. Individually he wrecks each one of them with relative ease.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How do you Greco Roman wrestle three guys at the same time. A key facet of Greco Roman Wrestling is having your hands locked around your opponent and vice versa. Breaking that standing lock means you lose a point. So, I'm unclear how he's this match is supposed to look at play out. Individually he wrecks each one of them with relative ease.
What greco roman is that?
Unless you are going by a old rule book that is incorrect.
You can points by a take down in which you must have control of your Opponent.
Escapeing from opponent when they have top control of you net you a point.
Then the only other to score a point is top have you opponet on there back and have control in which you can gain up to 3 points i think.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
What greco roman is that?Unless you are going by a old rule book that is incorrect.
You can points by a take down in which you must have control of your Opponent.
Escapeing from opponent when they have top control of you net you a point.
Then the only other to score a point is top have you opponet on there back and have control in which you can gain up to 3 points i think.
Ummmm I'm not sure which Greco your talking about.. There are no below the waist wrestling at all. When standing your in a clinch and have your arms locked around each other. Breaking that clinch means you loss a point. How do you think the Russian Bear Karelin finally lost an international match to Gardner in Sydney? He either broke it for whatever reason or Gardner made him break.. It's not really clear. What is clear is that was the only point in the match and decided the match. The standing clinch is what Greco Wrestling is all about so I'm not sure what your talking about.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Ummmm I'm not sure which Greco your talking about.. There are no below the waist wrestling at all. When standing your in a clinch and have your arms locked around each other. Breaking that clinch means you loss a point. How do you think the Russian Bear Karelin finally lost an international match to Gardner in Sydney? He either broke it for whatever reason or Gardner made him break.. It's not really clear. What is clear is that was the only point in the match and decided the match. The standing clinch is what Greco Wrestling is all about so I'm not sure what your talking about.
Well it is no surpirse you have no clue what your are talking about got to love the internet.
In Greco-Roman wrestling, as well as in freestyle wrestling, points are awarded mostly on the basis of explosive action and risk. For example, when one wrestler performs a grand amplitude throw that brings his opponent into the danger position, he is awarded the greatest number of points that can be scored in one instance. Also, a wrestler who takes the risk to briefly roll on the mat (with his shoulders in contact with the mat) could give a certain number of points to his opponent. Scoring can be accomplished in the following ways:
Takedown (1 to 5 points): A wrestler is awarded points for a takedown when the wrestler gains control over his opponent on the mat from a neutral position (when the wrestler is on his feet). At least three points of contact have to be controlled on the mat (e.g. two arms and one knee; two knees and one arm or the head; or two arms and the head).[26]
(5 points) - Five points are awarded for a takedown brought about by a throw of grand amplitude (a throw in which a wrestler brings his opponent off of the mat and controls him so that his feet go directly above his head) either from the standing or par terre position into a direct and immediate danger position.[27]
(3 points) - Generally, three points are awarded for a takedown brought about by a grand amplitude throw that does not bring his opponent in a direct and immediate danger position or for a takedown in which a wrestler's opponent is taken from his feet or his stomach to his back or side (a throw of short amplitude) so that he is in the danger position.[27]
(1 point) - One point is awarded for a takedown brought about by a wrestler taking his opponent from his feet to his stomach or side such that his back or shoulders are not exposed to the mat.[28]
Reversal (1 point): A wrestler is awarded one point for a reversal when the wrestler gains control over his opponent from a defensive position (when the wrestler is being controlled by his opponent).[28]
Exposure also called the Danger Position (2 or 3 points): A wrestler is awarded points for exposure when the wrestler exposes his opponent's back to the mat for several seconds. Points for exposure are also awarded if a wrestler's back is to the mat but the wrestler is not pinned. Criteria for exposure or the danger position is met when 1) a wrestler's opponent is in a bridge position to avoid being pinned, 2) a wrestler's opponent is on one or both elbows with his back to the mat and avoids getting pinned, 3) a wrestler holds one of his opponent's shoulders to the mat and the other shoulder at an acute angle (less than 90 degrees), 4) a wrestler's opponent is in an "instantaneous fall" position (where both of his shoulders are on the mat for less than one second), or 5) the wrestler's opponent rolls on his shoulders.[29] A wrestler in the danger position allows his opponent to score two points. An additional hold-down point may be earned by maintaining the exposure continuously for five seconds.[26]
Penalty (1 or 2 points): Under the 2004–2005 changes to the international styles, a wrestler whose opponent takes an injury time-out receives one point unless the injured wrestler is bleeding. Other infractions (e.g. fleeing a hold or the mat, striking the opponent, acting with brutality or intent to injure, using illegal holds, etc.) are penalized by an award of either one or two points, a Caution, and a choice of position to the opponent.[26]
Out-of-Bounds (1 point): Whenever a wrestler places his foot in the protection area, the match is stopped, and one point is awarded to his opponent.[28]
i'm pretty sure hercules, the actual creator of pancration would use the old style.
ulik, and especially ares grew up in ancient cultures devoid olympic rules (and the titan eternals stemmed from olympian eternals who grew along side the greek pantheon), it's fair to assume the old school grecian style is what would go down.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i'm pretty sure hercules, the actual creator of pancration would use the old style.ulik, and especially ares grew up in ancient cultures devoid olympic rules (and the titan eternals stemmed from olympian eternals who grew along side the greek pantheon), it's fair to assume the old school grecian style is what would go down.
Old school still used a points system with take downs throws, bear hug, etc. Just not allowed to go below the waist. This goes a few hundred years back into the b.c. era
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Well it is no surpirse you have no clue what your are talking about got to love the internet.In Greco-Roman wrestling, as well as in freestyle wrestling, points are awarded mostly on the basis of explosive action and risk. For example, when one wrestler performs a grand amplitude throw that brings his opponent into the danger position, he is awarded the greatest number of points that can be scored in one instance. Also, a wrestler who takes the risk to briefly roll on the mat (with his shoulders in contact with the mat) could give a certain number of points to his opponent. Scoring can be accomplished in the following ways:
Takedown (1 to 5 points): A wrestler is awarded points for a takedown when the wrestler gains control over his opponent on the mat from a neutral position (when the wrestler is on his feet). At least three points of contact have to be controlled on the mat (e.g. two arms and one knee; two knees and one arm or the head; or two arms and the head).[26]
(5 points) - Five points are awarded for a takedown brought about by a throw of grand amplitude (a throw in which a wrestler brings his opponent off of the mat and controls him so that his feet go directly above his head) either from the standing or par terre position into a direct and immediate danger position.[27]
(3 points) - Generally, three points are awarded for a takedown brought about by a grand amplitude throw that does not bring his opponent in a direct and immediate danger position or for a takedown in which a wrestler's opponent is taken from his feet or his stomach to his back or side (a throw of short amplitude) so that he is in the danger position.[27]
(1 point) - One point is awarded for a takedown brought about by a wrestler taking his opponent from his feet to his stomach or side such that his back or shoulders are not exposed to the mat.[28]
Reversal (1 point): A wrestler is awarded one point for a reversal when the wrestler gains control over his opponent from a defensive position (when the wrestler is being controlled by his opponent).[28]
Exposure also called the Danger Position (2 or 3 points): A wrestler is awarded points for exposure when the wrestler exposes his opponent's back to the mat for several seconds. Points for exposure are also awarded if a wrestler's back is to the mat but the wrestler is not pinned. Criteria for exposure or the danger position is met when 1) a wrestler's opponent is in a bridge position to avoid being pinned, 2) a wrestler's opponent is on one or both elbows with his back to the mat and avoids getting pinned, 3) a wrestler holds one of his opponent's shoulders to the mat and the other shoulder at an acute angle (less than 90 degrees), 4) a wrestler's opponent is in an "instantaneous fall" position (where both of his shoulders are on the mat for less than one second), or 5) the wrestler's opponent rolls on his shoulders.[29] A wrestler in the danger position allows his opponent to score two points. An additional hold-down point may be earned by maintaining the exposure continuously for five seconds.[26]
Penalty (1 or 2 points): Under the 2004–2005 changes to the international styles, a wrestler whose opponent takes an injury time-out receives one point unless the injured wrestler is bleeding. Other infractions (e.g. fleeing a hold or the mat, striking the opponent, acting with brutality or intent to injure, using illegal holds, etc.) are penalized by an award of either one or two points, a Caution, and a choice of position to the opponent.[26]
Out-of-Bounds (1 point): Whenever a wrestler places his foot in the protection area, the match is stopped, and one point is awarded to his opponent.[28]
Wiki much.
Do me a favor then since you "claim" lol to know about Greco Roman wrestling. Go watch some actual matches since it's clear you don't or better yet go read any article or watch the match between Karelin and Gardner. Read up kid and tell me exactly how he lost. It was by breaking his grip around gardner. I love how people don't know what they are talking and clearly has never watched Greco Roman wrestling and use wiki like they are smart. Go watch or read the match and tell me how he lost