Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Wolverine and Sabretooth's speed and viciousness may cause Batman and Nightwing fits, but they're good enough to not be completely overwhelmed and their teamwork would cause any duo fits. But Deathstroke really does put them over the top...... as to how much, I don't know yet.
Originally posted by carver9He can fight and think strategically at the same time. That's what using nearly all of your brain capacity can do for you. As he showed against the JLA in Identity Crisis, a team he didn't know was coming beforehand, he managed to nearly neutralize them all without any sort of prep. You assume he's going to get stabbed straight up, but there are plenty of street-levelers who have not been stabbed straight up by either Wolverine or Sabes and they have considerably lower physical stats than Deathstroke does.
So you're saying that throughout this time of thinking dc wont get stabbed or slashed? How about this, tell me deathstrokes best healing feat because we both know with deathstroke fighting either wolverine or sabes he's going to get stabbed just like batman and nightwing will also.Throughout this plan that your talking about dc team cannot afford to get hit once, they would have to come up with something IMMEDIATELY. Do you think thats possible?
For some reason you keep projecting a clean kill strike onto every possible hit that Wolvie or Sabes will connect on the trio. That is patently false as most competent street levelers are not killed outright by either of them as is quite obvious by their fights. Should I name how many street-level opponents are not tagged by clean kill strikes? This is even in well-extended fights. This simple fact should be apparent to you.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He can fight and think strategically at the same time. That's what using nearly all of your brain capacity can do for you. As he showed against the JLA in Identity Crisis, a team he didn't know was coming beforehand, he managed to nearly neutralize them all without any sort of prep. You assume he's going to get stabbed straight up, but there are plenty of street-levelers who have not been stabbed straight up by either Wolverine or Sabes and they have considerably lower physical stats than Deathstroke does.For some reason you keep projecting a clean kill strike onto every possible hit that Wolvie or Sabes will connect on the trio. That is patently false as most competent street levelers are not killed outright by either of them as is quite obvious by their fights. Should I name how many street-level opponents are not tagged by clean kill strikes? This is even in well-extended fights. This simple fact should be apparent to you.
I never said kill at the first swipe but it would slow them down. Deathstroke is the only one on there team that could afford to get hit more than once (depending on the area he's getting hit at) and he still doesnt have the type of healing factor that you're putting him at to afford to get hit by either of his opponents.
The question I ask again is will he come up with this plan before him receiving an injury that would either kill him or slow him down. Wolverine and sabes would be at there prime throughout the fight, no matter what damage the trio come up with but team two cant afford to get hit not once which WILL happen.
Didnt deathstroke prep for the jla fight; to my knowledge he did.
^ Once again, you equate every single hit Wolvie or Sabes could manage to be a killing strike or one-shot. Punisher, Daredevil, Elektra, Cap, Spidey, classic Iron Fist, all of them have have taken hits from those two and they were neither killed nor slowed down to the point where the battle was inevitably in Wolvie's or Sabes' favor.
Batman, Nightwing and Deathstroke rival the street-levelers that those two have faced. To assume that Wolvie and Sabes, by mere virtue of stabbing or slashing, have some kind of fictional insurmountable one-shot advantage over this trio is completely ludicrous. Talented people with guns have the same so-called "insurmountable one-shot advantage" that Wolvie and Sabes has. How often have we seen this simple bullet advantage topple or even kill top street-levelers? And considering the devices and gadgets the trio have, this is a battle easily in the trio's favor.
And no, Deathstroke had no reason to know which JLA team he would face as there were near a dozen teams mobilized to find Sue Dibny's killer. He beat a mish-mash JLA team on the fly using pretty standard gear, i.e. a few mines, and a gag with simple garbage ties and a laser pointer.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Once again, you equate every single hit Wolvie or Sabes could manage to be a killing strike or one-shot. Punisher, Daredevil, Elektra, Cap, Spidey, classic Iron Fist, all of them have have taken hits from those two and they were neither killed nor slowed down to the point where the battle was inevitably in Wolvie's or Sabes' favor.Batman, Nightwing and Deathstroke rival the street-levelers that those two have faced. To assume that Wolvie and Sabes, by mere virtue of stabbing or slashing, have some kind of fictional insurmountable one-shot advantage over this trio is completely ludicrous. Talented people with guns have the same so-called "insurmountable one-shot advantage" that Wolvie and Sabes has. How often have we seen this simple bullet advantage topple or even kill top street-levelers? And considering the devices and gadgets the trio have, this is a battle easily in the trio's favor.
And no, Deathstroke had no reason to know which JLA team he would face as there were near a dozen teams mobilized to find Sue Dibny's killer. He beat a mish-mash JLA team on the fly using pretty standard gear, i.e. a few mines, and a gag with simple garbage ties and a laser pointer.
Answer this question, how is team 2 taking out sabes and wolverine? 😕
^ Promethium swords impaled through the throat cavity into the brains. Well-aimed bullets through the eye cavities into the brains. Well-placed batarangs or swords/knives into certain pressure points to incapacitate them. Choreographing their moves and causing Wolvie and Sabes to stab each other causing them to go berserk on each other for the k.o. I dunno. You got any ideas?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Promethium swords impaled through the throat cavity into the brains. Well-aimed bullets through the eye cavities into the brains. Well-placed batarangs or swords/knives into certain pressure points to incapacitate them. Choreographing their moves and causing Wolvie and Sabes to stab each other causing them to go berserk on each other for the k.o. I dunno. You got any ideas?
LOL, now this is hilarious. So Deathstroke can stab wolverine and sabes but the marvel team doesnt have the abilities of stabbing them. Wolverine and Sabes is faster than the trio, have a better advantage at getting a stab in; has a healing fact that allows them to take punishment so that they can get in closer to attack.
I truly dont get your statement one dumb; maybe you can help me a little more. 😕
^ Arguable that Wolvie or Sabes is actually faster than Deathstroke. Wolvie has been hit by a lot of bullets to the brain. Even in one on one matches. And since they have a numbers advantage against some of the best street-level fighters and tacticians in comics, this is a very distinct scenario.
You don't need help. Just think a bit more.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Arguable that Wolvie or Sabes is actually faster than Deathstroke. Wolvie has been hit by a lot of bullets to the brain. Even in one on one matches. And since they have a numbers advantage against some of the best street-level fighters and tacticians in comics, this is a very distinct scenario.You don't need help. Just think a bit more.
Answer this, do you think batman can punch wolverine in the face during this fight?
If your answer is yes, do you think that wolverine could hit batman in the face in this fight?
You cant argue for one side without looking at the possibilities of the others. Dc team would have to be MUCH faster in order not to get hit by wolverine or sabes in a vital area in the beginning of the fight. Is that what you're trying to say?
^ Yet, that same reductionist argument could be made for people with proficient skill with guns vs these top-tier street-levelers. You need to get it through your mind that possessing edged weapons that are capable of stabbing and eviscerating doesn't necessarily equate to an insurmountable advantage over H2H specialists, especially when these H2H specialists have their own personal arsenals to draw from.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Yet, that same reductionist argument could be made for people with proficient skill with guns vs these top-tier street-levelers. You need to get it through your mind that possessing edged weapons that are capable of stabbing and eviscerating doesn't necessarily equate to an insurmountable advantage over H2H specialists, especially when these H2H specialists have their own personal arsenals to draw from.
I get that part but I dont think you get the part where batman, deathstroke, and Nightwing will be getting stabbed up also. The difference is one side can take it a LOT more than the other and still be at there prime.
Both parties will be hitting each other, thats not even debatable. I also could have sworn that wolverine and sabes is as much of a good fighter as there opponents. 😕